NYC, Ypsilanti to Hillsdale line (1950s)

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NYC, Ypsilanti to Hillsdale line (1950s)

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Posted by NILE on 5/11/2021, 4:35 pm
NYC used to have many lines in southern Michigan and according to the "Evolution-of-michigan-railroads" link on this website. The line from Ypsilanti through Saline to Hillsdale was slowly pulled up from 1960 to 1970, with Pitt Junction to Saline part being sold to AARR in either '69 or '70. I suspect it was pulled up because it was redundant to many other NYC lines in the area.

What were some of the major industries along this line? Was it used to haul traffic south from Hillsdale or west to Eklhart? I maybe moving to this area soon and I'd like to know a little more about the history of this line.
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Posted by DaveO on 5/11/2021, 6:17 pm, in reply to "NYC, Ypsilanti to Hillsdale line (1950s)"
That it crossed both the US-23 and I-94 freeways at grade didn't help with longevity.
As DaveO correctly pointed out the reason AA (not AARR) was awarded the line to Saline was because the NYC branch to Hillsdale through Saline crossed US23 at grade. IIRC US23 was scheduled for either an expansion or renovation and someone must have determined that was a good time to make the change. However, most, if not all, of the traffic from the Ford plant in Saline went to NYC in Ann Arbor and later Toledo and/or Milan.
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Re: NYC, Ypsilanti to Hillsdale line (1950s)

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From the other board: https://members4.boardhost.com/RRHXHist ... 65333.html
Posted by NILE on 5/11/2021, 4:35 pm
NYC used to have many lines in southern Michigan and according to the "Evolution-of-michigan-railroads" link on this website. The line from Ypsilanti through Saline to Hillsdale was slowly pulled up from 1960 to 1970, with Pitt Junction to Saline part being sold to AARR in either '69 or '70. I suspect it was pulled up because it was redundant to many other NYC lines in the area.

What were some of the major industries along this line? Was it used to haul traffic south from Hillsdale or west to Eklhart? I maybe moving to this area soon and I'd like to know a little more about the history of this line.
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Posted by DaveO on 5/11/2021, 6:17 pm, in reply to "NYC, Ypsilanti to Hillsdale line (1950s)"
That it crossed both the US-23 and I-94 freeways at grade didn't help with longevity.
As DaveO correctly pointed out the reason AA (not AARR) was awarded the line to Saline was because the NYC branch to Hillsdale through Saline crossed US23 at grade. IIRC US23 was scheduled for either an expansion or renovation and someone must have determined that was a good time to make the change. However, most, if not all, of the traffic from the Ford plant in Saline went to NYC in Ann Arbor and later Toledo and/or Milan.
They had plans to build bridges at both 23 and 94 for the traffic to Saline to come out of Ypsilanti. When the PC merger happened the plans were scrapped and the line was abandoned in late 1969 with the AA taking over Pittsfield to Saline because of the PC’s control of the DT&I and by extension the AA. It made it much easier to access the branch. The line was ripped out from Ypsilanti to Pittsfield in 1970, from Saline to Bridgewater in 1967 or 68 and from Bridgewater west in 1961.
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The line from Hillsdale to North Adams was still in place at Conrail day....the HCRC slowly pulled it up in the late 70s'-early 80s' with the last section in Hillsdale city limits removed in the 90s'

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The line from Hillsdale to North Adams was still in place at Conrail day....the HCRC slowly pulled it up in the late 70s'-early 80s' with the last section in Hillsdale city limits removed in the 90s'
Right, I forgot about that small section… only 4 or 5 miles wasn’t it?
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Little over 7 miles from Hillsdale to North Adams
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Wed May 12, 2021 12:31 pm
The line from Hillsdale to North Adams was still in place at Conrail day....the HCRC slowly pulled it up in the late 70s'-early 80s' with the last section in Hillsdale city limits removed in the 90s'
Right, I forgot about that small section… only 4 or 5 miles wasn’t it?
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AARR wrote:
Wed May 12, 2021 6:25 pm
Little over 7 miles from Hillsdale to North Adams
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Wed May 12, 2021 4:55 pm
Buster Manning wrote:
Wed May 12, 2021 12:31 pm
The line from Hillsdale to North Adams was still in place at Conrail day....the HCRC slowly pulled it up in the late 70s'-early 80s' with the last section in Hillsdale city limits removed in the 90s'
Right, I forgot about that small section… only 4 or 5 miles wasn’t it?
Thanks… it’s really a shame that the lines out there deteriorated and were eventually torn out… that was a lot of track the NYC had in that area.
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You can very clearly see most of the line's remnants if you follow its former routing. A shame they didn't pave it into a rail trail as a lot of the RoW still remains.

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mach69 wrote:
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You can very clearly see most of the line's remnants if you follow its former routing. A shame they didn't pave it into a rail trail as a lot of the RoW still remains.
I wish there were more rail trails in general in Michigan.

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I also wish that Faurecia could move to a different facility around Saline and that another company (who want rail service) could pick up where Faurecia left off.

As for the (hypothetical) Ypsilanti-Hillsdale rail-trail, it would start near Ypsilanti junction, then move to the north side of the Pittsfield-Saline branch at Pittsfield Junction, then merge back onto the ROW west of Saline for most of the remainder of the run to Hillsdale.

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There was also a segment retained between Brooklyn and Cement City, being serviced from the Cincinnati Northern line.

I can remember the railroad crossing on M-50 as a kid. It must have come out circa 1970.
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The cement plant near Cement City closed during the 60's, IIRC, so you are probably correct about the track coming out
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There was also a segment retained between Brooklyn and Cement City, being serviced from the Cincinnati Northern line.

I can remember the railroad crossing on M-50 as a kid. It must have come out circa 1970.
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