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Re: Where Is It?

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 5:15 pm
by David Collins
~Z~ wrote:
Mon Nov 07, 2022 3:49 pm
Also, I see another spur circled in green. Any idea if that was another mining site?
Per my research, it would seem like it would be part of the same complex given how big the mine was. Just a guess.

This one is out of state, quite a busy location :)

Re: Where Is It?

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 7:15 pm
by Standard Railfan
I found a 1914 Topo on the USGS site. The map clearly shows a spur heading almost due north into a complex of buildings. Later maps (mid century) show a much larger mill in the same spot.

https://ngmdb.usgs.gov/ht-bin/tv_brows ... fbe6e1605f

1967 Map

https://ngmdb.usgs.gov/ht-bin/tv_brows ... 0e6e953dce

Re: Where Is It?

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 4:02 pm
by GRHC
~Z~ wrote:
Mon Nov 07, 2022 3:49 pm
That sure looks like the spot Standard.

Also, I see another spur circled in green. Any idea if that was another mining site?
A 3D satellite image of the gypsum mine site. (I toured the mine shafts in 1976)

Re: Where Is It?

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 6:27 am
by J T
~Z~ wrote:
Mon Nov 07, 2022 3:49 pm
That sure looks like the spot Standard. On the attached image, I was standing near the circled red area. Just behind me, the tracks seem like they'd have ran straight into the side of a very steep hill. There's some drainage pipes up the hill. Wondering if this spot had the land area raised after the plaster mill was removed? Unless the tracks skirted just to the east of the hill and continued further north towards Butterworth before becoming level with the land.

Also, I see another spur circled in green. Any idea if that was another mining site?
I'm pretty sure this one has been done before. :) And yes, that hill was created long after the tracks were gone.

Re: Where Is It?

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 9:39 am
by PatAzo
David Collins wrote:
Mon Nov 07, 2022 5:15 pm

This one is out of state, quite a busy location :)
Doesn't appear to be much interest in guessing an out of state location.

Re: Where Is It?

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 7:05 am
by ConrailDetr​oit
ImageIMG_1798 by tcamp7837, on Flickr

Re: Where Is It?

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 7:55 am
by David Collins
ConrailDetr​oit wrote:
Mon Nov 14, 2022 7:05 am
ImageIMG_1798 by tcamp7837, on Flickr
Somewhere on the Conrail Shared Assets?

Re: Where Is It?

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:22 am
by DaveO
I'll take the Brandt trunk, CN High Line(Shore Line Sub) and CN Avery for my final answer.

Re: Where Is It?

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:14 am
by DaveO
David Collins wrote:
Mon Nov 07, 2022 5:15 pm
This one is out of state, quite a busy location :)
What is known
1) out of state, busy location(track layout makes that obvious)
2) control point
3) google street view image

I thought it might be the BNSF Racetrack but like many other commuter lines, industry tracks are almost non-existant.
Since it has been a week, big clue that you need to give some better clues.

Re: Where Is It?

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:18 am
by David Collins
DaveO wrote:
Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:14 am
Since it has been a week, big clue that you need to give some better clues.
It’s close to a very well known museum

Re: Where Is It?

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 12:52 pm
by Buster Manning
Looking north (timetable direction) at the 11th St. crossing in Salisbury, NC on NS's Washington-Atlanta mainline.....behind the photograph is where the line the goes to Asheville splits off

Re: Where Is It?

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:00 pm
by David Collins
Buster Manning wrote:
Mon Nov 14, 2022 12:52 pm
Looking north (timetable direction) at the 11th St. crossing in Salisbury, NC on NS's Washington-Atlanta mainline.....behind the photograph is where the line the goes to Asheville splits off
I was pretty sure you would get this one! However we’re looking south (on the compass and timetable), the junction to the S-Line (or whatever it’s called now) is south of 11th street, not north.

Re: Where Is It?

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 8:49 pm
by Standard Railfan
ConrailDetr​oit wrote:
Mon Nov 14, 2022 7:05 am
ImageIMG_1798 by tcamp7837, on Flickr
Trumbull Viaduct looking south on CN.

Re: Where Is It?

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2022 6:09 am
by ConrailDetr​oit
Close enough. Lincoln St Viaduct, looking south at Avery on CN.

Re: Where Is It?

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2022 1:19 pm
by J T
David Collins wrote:
Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:00 pm
Buster Manning wrote:
Mon Nov 14, 2022 12:52 pm
Looking north (timetable direction) at the 11th St. crossing in Salisbury, NC on NS's Washington-Atlanta mainline.....behind the photograph is where the line the goes to Asheville splits off
I was pretty sure you would get this one! However we’re looking south (on the compass and timetable), the junction to the S-Line (or whatever it’s called now) is south of 11th street, not north.
I've been to this crossing before. Back in 2017, I photographed a few trains a little bit east of here in Yadkin on my drive (for work) from Greensboro to Atlanta. I thought it looked a little familiar.

Re: Where Is It?

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:57 pm
by Raildudes dad
GR H & C wrote:
Tue Nov 08, 2022 4:02 pm
~Z~ wrote:
Mon Nov 07, 2022 3:49 pm
That sure looks like the spot Standard.

Also, I see another spur circled in green. Any idea if that was another mining site?
A 3D satellite image of the gypsum mine site. (I toured the mine shafts in 1976)
The building is what was was left of the Grand Rapids Gypsum mill. The mill produced drywall 24/7/365. It lasted as long as it due to its low cost of production. The raw material came from the mine on the other side of the road where the 2-track goes back from Butterworth across the large flat surface.The shaft was at the bottom of the big hill. I took a tour of the site in the 80's/ 4 wheel drive suburban with a big steel protection cage. They gave us ID steel disk to identify us if the roof caved in and flattened us to a blood spot
The area on the riverside that shows removed industrial was the site of the US Gypsum mill. Their raw material came from a shaft on the same side as GR Gyspum. The US Gypsum was a higher cost producer and gone much earlier than GR Gypsum.

Re: Where Is It?

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 5:13 am
by ConrailDetr​oit
ImageIMG_1782 by tcamp7837, on Flickr

Re: Where Is It?

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 6:12 am
by Chip
Delray near Fort St. and I-75.

Re: Where Is It?

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 1:04 pm
by Standard Railfan
This is Green Street Detroit looking southwest on CSX. The Detroit produce terminal is just out of frame to the left.

You must have on heckuva telephoto lens. :lol:

Re: Where Is It?

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:45 pm
by Chip
The Mike Morse billboard gave it away for me.