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Re: Hamilton Northwestern Railroad Co.

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2024 7:11 pm
by GRHC
SD80MAC wrote:
Wed Mar 06, 2024 6:39 pm
Endeavour and Keystone merged. No sale.
CERES SOLUTIONS, CO-ALLIANCE & ENDEAVOR AG & ENERGY ALL BECOME KEYSTONE COOPERATIVE.
https://www.keystonecoop.com/welcome

You are right SD80MAC no sale just a merger same result Endeavor becomes Keystone.

Re: Hamilton Northwestern Railroad Co.

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2024 7:31 pm
by NS3322
Endeavor was already a joint venture between Ceres Solutions and Co-Alliance. Interesting development nonetheless.
https://www.croplife.com/croplife-top-1 ... -michigan/

Re: Hamilton Northwestern Railroad Co.

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2024 7:34 pm
by GRHC
NS3322 wrote:
Wed Mar 06, 2024 7:31 pm
Endeavor was already a joint venture between Ceres Solutions and Co-Alliance. Interesting development nonetheless.
https://www.croplife.com/croplife-top-1 ... -michigan/
Who is who and what is what. lol
It didn’t take them long to change the signage on the elevator in Harlem Michigan I know that.
I hope that Keystone continues utilizing rail service at the Hamilton and Harlem Michigan facilities.

Disclaimer: The word on the street was that the Harlem Michigan Endeavor facility became Keystone. I just assumed it was a sale that was my bad.

Re: Hamilton Northwestern Railroad Co.

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 9:55 am
by GRHC
Work on the Hamilton Northwestern transload facility located in Fillmore Michigan is underway. Here’s a couple of pictures of the work in progress.
03/08/2024
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Re: Hamilton Northwestern Railroad Co.

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 10:17 am
by ~Z~
They do own a decent chunk of land there in Fillmore at the Fillmore Rd crossing. Looks like the local farmer has crops on some of their land, and a nearby house has a small building on their property too. Guess we'll see how large the transload gets as time goes on.

Re: Hamilton Northwestern Railroad Co.

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 10:48 am
by GRHC
I can’t help but wonder if someday the HNW will extend the siding back across Fillmore Rd. like it was in the past. I also wonder if the HNW will be required to put signals and crossing protection up at the Fillmore Rd. grade crossing.

From the looks of it they can start unloading rail cars today.
03/09/2024
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Re: Hamilton Northwestern Railroad Co.

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 11:00 am
by CAT345C
GRHC wrote:
Sat Mar 09, 2024 10:48 am
I can’t help but wonder if someday the HNW will extend the siding back across Fillmore Rd. like it was in the past. I also wonder if the HNW will be required to put signals and crossing protection up at the Fillmore Rd. grade crossing.

From the looks of it they can start unloading rail cars today.
03/09/2024
492B1D45-65F5-47C3-8356-92EC3613A2ED.jpeg
FF14DFDD-5A39-48EE-BFC1-ECAC77C833CB.jpeg
It's all being built to the north, no changes at the crossing. There will be a run around built. Should really make things efficient and easy when its all completed

Re: Hamilton Northwestern Railroad Co.

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 12:04 pm
by Erroneous Monk
I wonder what the range is on a transload site such as this. 15-20 miles?

Re: Hamilton Northwestern Railroad Co.

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 12:55 pm
by GRHC
Erroneous Monk wrote:
Sat Mar 09, 2024 12:04 pm
I wonder what the range is on a transload site such as this. 15-20 miles?
I thought I read somewhere‘s on RailRoadFan.com that the WMI was transloading apples that were transported up to Traverse City Michigan for Gogo Squeez. So who knows what the actual range on a transload site could be.
Here’s an interesting thought. If Gogo Squeez transloaded those apples from the HNW opposed to the WMI I would assume it would save them some on transportation cost. Who knows what the future will hold for the HNW we may see refers and who knows what else in Fillmore Michigan.

Re: Hamilton Northwestern Railroad Co.

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 1:13 pm
by TC Man
GRHC wrote:
Sat Mar 09, 2024 12:55 pm
Erroneous Monk wrote:
Sat Mar 09, 2024 12:04 pm
I wonder what the range is on a transload site such as this. 15-20 miles?
I thought I read somewhere‘s on RailRoadFan.com that the WMI was transloading apples that were transported up to Traverse City Michigan for Gogo Squeez. So who knows what the actual range on a transload site could be.
Here’s an interesting thought. If Gogo Squeez transloaded those apples from the HNW opposed to the WMI I would assume it would save them some on transportation cost. Who knows what the future will hold for the HNW we may see refers and who knows what else in Fillmore Michigan.
Now if only it were cost effective to ship those apples directly to Go Go Squeeze and avoid the transload period, lol. Obviously it must be much less costly to transload and truck north.

Re: Hamilton Northwestern Railroad Co.

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 2:01 pm
by NS3322
TC Man wrote:
Sat Mar 09, 2024 1:13 pm
GRHC wrote:
Sat Mar 09, 2024 12:55 pm
Erroneous Monk wrote:
Sat Mar 09, 2024 12:04 pm
I wonder what the range is on a transload site such as this. 15-20 miles?
I thought I read somewhere‘s on RailRoadFan.com that the WMI was transloading apples that were transported up to Traverse City Michigan for Gogo Squeez. So who knows what the actual range on a transload site could be.
Here’s an interesting thought. If Gogo Squeez transloaded those apples from the HNW opposed to the WMI I would assume it would save them some on transportation cost. Who knows what the future will hold for the HNW we may see refers and who knows what else in Fillmore Michigan.
Now if only it were cost effective to ship those apples directly to Go Go Squeeze and avoid the transload period, lol. Obviously it must be much less costly to transload and truck north.
I think we figured out it added 3-4 days to have them go up via GLC, versus transloading them in Hartford. Also, I do not believe they still have this business.

Re: Hamilton Northwestern Railroad Co.

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 10:17 am
by MQT1223
Does anybody know if any of the transload business on the WMI going to be moved up here for the sake of efficiency for the customers involved? Ya know more northern customers will get their product up in Fillmore and customers closer to the state line will get their stuff in Hartford?

Bet the local residents sure are curious as to what's going on. Probably has been decades since little ol' Fillmore has seen this kind of activity!

Re: Hamilton Northwestern Railroad Co.

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 10:19 am
by MQT1223
~Z~ wrote:
Fri Mar 08, 2024 10:17 am
They do own a decent chunk of land there in Fillmore at the Fillmore Rd crossing. Looks like the local farmer has crops on some of their land, and a nearby house has a small building on their property too. Guess we'll see how large the transload gets as time goes on.
I wonder why the railroad owns so much land here? Basically everyone who is next to the tracks is infringing on it in some way.

Re: Hamilton Northwestern Railroad Co.

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 11:26 am
by C&O6088
"I wonder why the railroad owns so much land here? Basically everyone who is next to the tracks is infringing on it in some way."

Back in the day, Fillmore had a depot and a few other buildings and at least two tracks. So, the railroad had a larger tract of land for these buildings and tracks. While the buildings are gone....the railroad retained the land, which now allows for the transload facilities.

Re: Hamilton Northwestern Railroad Co.

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 11:36 am
by GRHC
C&O6088 wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2024 11:26 am
"I wonder why the railroad owns so much land here? Basically everyone who is next to the tracks is infringing on it in some way."

Back in the day, Fillmore had a depot and a few other buildings and at least two tracks. So, the railroad had a larger tract of land for these buildings and tracks. While the buildings are gone....the railroad retained the land, which now allows for the transload facilities.
Topographical maps from the 1930s until the present show a single siding. Aerial photos from The 1940s and 1950s show a single siding and a very large industry where the transload facility is now located.
On the southside of Fillmore Road on the east side of the tracks there’s an old foundation which makes me wonder if that could be the old station.
It will be interesting to see what happens in the future. I have to wonder if the facility will be fenced in and secured and if so will they store the power on site.
It looks like most of the activity on the line will be between Holland and Fillmore Michigan and it would make economical sense to store the engines in Fillmore versus Hamilton.

Re: Hamilton Northwestern Railroad Co.

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 12:25 pm
by DaveO
GRHC wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2024 11:36 am
On the southside of Fillmore Road on the east side of the tracks there’s an old foundation which makes me wonder if that could be the old station.
yes according to 1913 atlas

Re: Hamilton Northwestern Railroad Co.

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 12:49 pm
by 12Bridge
There are already in a secure fenced in facility where they are.

And yet it still does not seem to stop buffs from trespassing.

Re: Hamilton Northwestern Railroad Co.

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 1:10 pm
by Erroneous Monk
C&O6088 wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2024 11:26 am
Back in the day, Fillmore had a depot and a few other buildings and at least two tracks. So, the railroad had a larger tract of land for these buildings and tracks. While the buildings are gone....the railroad retained the land, which now allows for the transload facilities.
Neat, any pics floating around?

Re: Hamilton Northwestern Railroad Co.

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 2:45 pm
by C&O6088
DaveO wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2024 12:25 pm
GRHC wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2024 11:36 am
On the southside of Fillmore Road on the east side of the tracks there’s an old foundation which makes me wonder if that could be the old station.
yes according to 1913 atlas
https://historicmapworks.com/Map/US/160 ... /Michigan/

Re: Hamilton Northwestern Railroad Co.

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 6:04 pm
by CAT345C
12Bridge wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2024 12:49 pm
There are already in a secure fenced in facility where they are.

And yet it still does not seem to stop buffs from trespassing.
But if they obeyed the signs we wouldn't have all that fun watching the camera footages of the sweatpants brigade.