Wye on GTW/CN?
Wye on GTW/CN?
On Sat. the 16th Amtrak #351 had a bad coupler in the first car, which required the train to be turned on a wye so that the locomotive could couple onto what had been the last car leaving Pontiac. This happened on the CN just before the train got to Detroit. Where on the CN would the wye have been where this move could have been made?
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Re: Wye on GTW/CN?
I would guess Milwaukee Junction?twropr wrote:On Sat. the 16th Amtrak #351 had a bad coupler in the first car, which required the train to be turned on a wye so that the locomotive could couple onto what had been the last car leaving Pontiac. This happened on the CN just before the train got to Detroit. Where on the CN would the wye have been where this move could have been made?
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Re: Wye on GTW/CN?
I agree with SD80
SD80MAC wrote:I would guess Milwaukee Junction?twropr wrote:On Sat. the 16th Amtrak #351 had a bad coupler in the first car, which required the train to be turned on a wye so that the locomotive could couple onto what had been the last car leaving Pontiac. This happened on the CN just before the train got to Detroit. Where on the CN would the wye have been where this move could have been made?
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Re: Wye on GTW/CN?
Pontiac Yard wye at West Blvd., Pontiac.AARR wrote:I agree with SD80SD80MAC wrote:I would guess Milwaukee Junction?twropr wrote:On Sat. the 16th Amtrak #351 had a bad coupler in the first car, which required the train to be turned on a wye so that the locomotive could couple onto what had been the last car leaving Pontiac. This happened on the CN just before the train got to Detroit. Where on the CN would the wye have been where this move could have been made?
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Re: Wye on GTW/CN?
actually they had to wye twice.....once the entire consist, then cut the engine off..run up to main 1 to Ford and cross over to main 2 and run south on main 2,around the wye and then back to the train.
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Where's Ford? Also, so they were about to pull southbound out of the station, found they had a bad coupler so they need to get to the other end of the train to hook it up there. So then they pushed the train all the way up to the wye at West, and then...? I'm not understanding the movements, because wouldn't it necessitate three movements to get to the back of the train to bring it to the front (one pushed up the wye, then pulled down the other wye, then disconnect the locamotive and run it around to the front)?
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It depends where enroute the coupler issue was discovered.
Ford is at Milepost 7 on the Holly Sub, location of the old Ford Jct before the diamonds were removed.
Ford is at Milepost 7 on the Holly Sub, location of the old Ford Jct before the diamonds were removed.
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How did they discover a coupler issue? Did the train come apart? Was it just a knuckle?
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Just south of 6 miles rd where the Detroit Terminal use to cross. ROW still visible. Parallels Jerome st.MiddleMI wrote:Where's Ford? Also, so they were about to pull southbound out of the station, found they had a bad coupler so they need to get to the other end of the train to hook it up there. So then they pushed the train all the way up to the wye at West, and then...? I'm not understanding the movements, because wouldn't it necessitate three movements to get to the back of the train to bring it to the front (one pushed up the wye, then pulled down the other wye, then disconnect the locamotive and run it around to the front)?
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Re: Wye on GTW/CN?
2 train seperations 1 at troy station 2nd at oakland and nevada streets.pulled train down to D&M and then the fun began. bet the crew was tired after that episode.
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The whole mention of the Pontiac Yard wye three me completely off. If this happened in Detroit, we're talking about Milwaukee Junction where they'd have wyed and where all of the movements would have taken place. Curious, though, that if they wyed the whole train at the junction (I'm assuming that mean they'd wyed it onto the Mt. Clemens Sub, right?), that they'd have to go all the way back up to Ford to cross over given that there is a cross-over just north of Milwaukee Junction unless I'm not understanding where they left the train.
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Re: Wye on GTW/CN?
The train is heading south on the Holly Sub Main 1 (the west track). It stops and leaves the cars at the D&M signal. The engine turns at Milwaukee Jct then heads north on Holly Sub Main 2 up to Ford. It then backs through the crossover at Ford and down Main 1 to the rear of the train. It then shoves the train around the Sugar House Wye towards East Yard on the Mt. Clemens sub. It then proceeds forward to the Detroit station.MiddleMI wrote:The whole mention of the Pontiac Yard wye three me completely off. If this happened in Detroit, we're talking about Milwaukee Junction where they'd have wyed and where all of the movements would have taken place. Curious, though, that if they wyed the whole train at the junction (I'm assuming that mean they'd wyed it onto the Mt. Clemens Sub, right?), that they'd have to go all the way back up to Ford to cross over given that there is a cross-over just north of Milwaukee Junction unless I'm not understanding where they left the train.
I wasn't there so this is based on what others have said above.
The stuff about Pontiac was misplaced.