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Re: Michigan Rail business news redux

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2024 7:16 pm
by GRHC
AARR wrote:
Wed Mar 06, 2024 12:14 pm
Will Keystone continue to receive rail service?
GRHC wrote:
Wed Mar 06, 2024 11:31 am
Apparently the Endeavor facility located in Harlem Michigan has been sold and is now owned by a company named Keystone according to the word on the street. 😉
Keystone received 2 car loads at the Harlem facility today.

CERES SOLUTIONS, CO-ALLIANCE & ENDEAVOR AG & ENERGY ALL BECOME KEYSTONE COOPERATIVE.
https://www.keystonecoop.com/welcome

Re: Michigan Rail business news redux

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:16 pm
by redside20
Expansion planned for Amways plant in Ada

https://www.wcsg.org/news/featured/3-27 ... -facility/

Re: Michigan Rail business news redux

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:59 pm
by AARR
My impression was the plant was underutilized and would need increased production to maximize its potential.

The plants yard, which if I have accurate information might receive 7-10 cars a week, looks like it can handle triple that volume.

I’m open to corrections and accurate information.
redside20 wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:16 pm
Expansion planned for Amways plant in Ada

https://www.wcsg.org/news/featured/3-27 ... -facility/

Re: Michigan Rail business news redux

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 1:19 pm
by JBaxter
AARR wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:59 pm
My impression was the plant was underutilized and would need increased production to maximize its potential.

The plants yard, which if I have accurate information might receive 7-10 cars a week, looks like it can handle triple that volume.

I’m open to corrections and accurate information.
redside20 wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:16 pm
Expansion planned for Amways plant in Ada

https://www.wcsg.org/news/featured/3-27 ... -facility/
Not all of this expansion will take place at the site in ada that receives rail traffic, this looks like it more has to do with their facility off of Spaulding. Their yard has a massive capacity, it once housed the entire American freedom train. Over the summer they moved 3 cars in 2.5 months. One cover hopper in, one tank car out, and one covered hopper in. But the volume could have changed since then based on their production needs

Re: Michigan Rail business news redux

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:25 pm
by Plannerdad
Seems like I see a couple cars a week in the yard for Amway. I know there was at least 1 this week.

Re: Michigan Rail business news redux

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 8:33 pm
by NS3322
AARR wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:59 pm
My impression was the plant was underutilized and would need increased production to maximize its potential.

The plants yard, which if I have accurate information might receive 7-10 cars a week, looks like it can handle triple that volume.

I’m open to corrections and accurate information.
redside20 wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:16 pm
Expansion planned for Amways plant in Ada

https://www.wcsg.org/news/featured/3-27 ... -facility/
Apparently, Amway wants to move operations at a California facility to Ada...
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https://www.woodtv.com/news/kent-county ... expansion/

Re: Michigan Rail business news redux

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 11:53 pm
by GP30M4216
It was a big deal around 2006-07 when National in Niles began using rail and NS B-1-G began bringing coiled wire to them. I’m not sure when they last got rail service, but the end is near…

https://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/20 ... utType=amp

Re: Michigan Rail business news redux

Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 3:22 pm
by atrainguy60
Photo update of the construction of the new auto rack transload in Gaylord.

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=76 ... 7624642414

Re: Michigan Rail business news redux

Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 4:44 pm
by AARR
In a million years I would have never believed there was enough vehicle business to justify the cost of an auto reload in Gaylord.
atrainguy60 wrote:
Fri May 10, 2024 3:22 pm
Photo update of the construction of the new auto rack transload in Gaylord.

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=76 ... 7624642414

Re: Michigan Rail business news redux

Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 5:11 pm
by GP30M4216
Any chance it’s actually for military vehicles from/for Camp Grayling?

Re: Michigan Rail business news redux

Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 5:19 pm
by atrainguy60
GP30M4216 wrote:
Fri May 10, 2024 5:11 pm
Any chance it’s actually for military vehicles from/for Camp Grayling?
Doesn't sound like it according to this interview (11:20 in)

https://dehayf5mhw1h7.cloudfront.net/wp ... ickoff.mp3

Re: Michigan Rail business news redux

Posted: Wed May 15, 2024 8:41 pm
by redside20
Well there goes the georgia pacific boxboard plant in milan.

https://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/20 ... oyees.html

Re: Michigan Rail business news redux

Posted: Thu May 16, 2024 8:39 am
by GP30M4216
redside20 wrote:
Wed May 15, 2024 8:41 pm
Well there goes the georgia pacific boxboard plant in milan.

https://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/20 ... oyees.html
Dang, another blow for the Milan NS local. Hopefully, another corrugated board maker sees potential in that plant and location and picks it up….and continues to use rail!

I don’t know about anyone else, but I always end up looking at boxes that arrive in the mail/from Amazon/etc. to see where they were made (and if I know if they use rail). In West Michigan, we get a lot of boxes from PCA in Grandville (served by CSXT), but I’ve seen boxes from Georgia-Pacific in Milan too and I’m like “hey they use rail too!” Bummer.

Re: Michigan Rail business news redux

Posted: Fri May 17, 2024 10:43 am
by SD80MAC
Track work is underway at the former sand plant in Livingston on CSX. The new business is supposed to be doing something with cement by rail. Will be some more work for L301.

Heinz in Holland on the CSX Dock Track just got the contract to make sauce for Taco Bell, should be seeing more boxcars of tomato paste heading that way.

Re: Michigan Rail business news redux

Posted: Fri May 17, 2024 7:52 pm
by NS3322
GP30M4216 wrote:
Thu May 16, 2024 8:39 am
redside20 wrote:
Wed May 15, 2024 8:41 pm
Well there goes the georgia pacific boxboard plant in milan.

https://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/20 ... oyees.html
Dang, another blow for the Milan NS local. Hopefully, another corrugated board maker sees potential in that plant and location and picks it up….and continues to use rail!

I don’t know about anyone else, but I always end up looking at boxes that arrive in the mail/from Amazon/etc. to see where they were made (and if I know if they use rail). In West Michigan, we get a lot of boxes from PCA in Grandville (served by CSXT), but I’ve seen boxes from Georgia-Pacific in Milan too and I’m like “hey they use rail too!” Bummer.
Is the old Ford plant in Milan still being used for storage?

Re: Michigan Rail business news redux

Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 6:03 pm
by GP30M4216
NS3322 wrote:
Fri May 17, 2024 7:52 pm
redside20 wrote:
Wed May 15, 2024 8:41 pm
Well there goes the georgia pacific boxboard plant in milan.

https://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/20 ... oyees.html
Is the old Ford plant in Milan still being used for storage?

Was the Milan Ford Plant used for car storage after the plant was closed? I know the nearby Ann Arbor Saline Branch trackage was (and may still be) used for car storage between Pittsfield Jct and Saline after that Ford/Faurencia plant closed around the same time.

Meanwhile back to Milan: sprinkled through out this article are some updates from 2023 about the Milan plant’s issues and possible future: https://www.bridgemi.com/business-watch ... behind?amp

Google Aerial Maps shows the Ford plant lead and sidings are all empty. Meanwhile, three boxcars are spotted on the G-P plant siding, 2 near the mainline and one right outside the plant. I’m not sure how many can be kept inside G-P or what the switching routine was for which cars were spotted where.

Re: Michigan Rail business news redux

Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 10:16 pm
by NS3322
GP30M4216 wrote:
Sat May 18, 2024 6:03 pm
Was the Milan Ford Plant used for car storage after the plant was closed? I know the nearby Ann Arbor Saline Branch trackage was (and may still be) used for car storage between Pittsfield Jct and Saline after that Ford/Faurencia plant closed around the same time.
I believe I remember reading Ford had received boxcars at the old Milan plant for storage moves. Not sure if this is true.

Re: Michigan Rail business news redux

Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 4:56 am
by GP30M4216
Interesting discussion near the end of this article about the reconstruction of the U.P. Propane spur in Escanaba to receive tank loads a few years ago: https://www.dailypress.net/news/local-n ... -counties/