NS michigan (8-14-09)

[nssd70m-2]

b33 at 1 am.

[Scooterb]

B34 headed west around Wayne at this time... might be saying NS334 but my guess is B34 7:00 am

[Scooterb]

B44 headed into Jackson from the east 12:24 pm

[RailCanon]

Amtrak 353's rear unit, Amtrak 30, just went on the ground at CP-Scotten on CRSA trackage in Detroit. Train has been annulled and buses ordered for the passengers.

[GTW6401]

CP-Scotten is a tough place to see any of the derailment without seriously trespassing.

Lead engine was the 90225 today when saw them in Royal Oak.

[nssd70m-2]

B34 headed west around Wayne at this time... might be saying NS334 but my guess is B34 7:00 am

The lead was 3034. B33 headed east at 6:30.

[nssd70m-2]

Amtrak 353's rear unit, Amtrak 30, just went on the ground at CP-Scotten on CRSA trackage in Detroit. Train has been annulled and buses ordered for the passengers.

Will they put 353's trainset on to 355?

[nssd70m-2]

Here's today's 20V
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBudtDzK ... annel_page

[OwlCaboose2853]

Here's today's 20V
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBudtDzK ... annel_page

Hey nssd70m-2, Too close train, You should back off 25 feet from public ground to track. FRA's rules

[nssd70m-2]

Here's today's 20V
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBudtDzK ... annel_page

Hey nssd70m-2, Too close train, You should back off 25 feet from public ground to track. FRA's rules

I heard it was 15 feet.

[Mr. Tops]

Ahhh, he's far enough back. He got a friendly "toot toot" from the engineer. If the crew thought he was too close, they would've laid on the horn. The FRA makes rules for the railroads to follow, not railfans.

[nssd70m-2]

Thanks tops.

[J T]

Hey nssd70m-2, Too close train, You should back off 25 feet from public ground to track. FRA's rules

Really. The gates at a crossing are MUCH closer than 25 feet. Just sayin'.

[OwlCaboose2853]

Hey nssd70m-2, Too close train, You should back off 25 feet from public ground to track. FRA's rules

Really. The gates at a crossing are MUCH closer than 25 feet. Just sayin'.

Total 50 ft., one track divide 25ft. each sides, one track Crossing 15ft. each sides

[leo28150]

Owl, you are going on the assumption that the right-of-way is 50 ft. wide--which some are and some are not; myself, I would rather not see anybody on the r-o-w--'cause there are people who just aren't smart enough to get out of the way of that big thingee coming down the tracks. Everyday I go by people who are doing something on the r-o-w and either don't realize how close I am to them before they know I am there--or they don't care and are proving how macho they are when I go by them, and these are the people who one day are going to get a surprise when I go by them....

I can remember people getting on JT on some earlier posts regarding shootin' photos' the 1225 and how close either he was or somebody else was and now you have someone saying the opposite of what the posters were getting on him about; it's no wonder that people can get a little grumpy with the inconsistant posts about said subject...

I got to see the video from the rear unit from the derailment--although there really wasn't much to see, just a little lurch from one side to another and then it came to a stop along with the sound of it with the wheels screeching going around the curve and then with them running on the web of the rail and then on the ties. I imagine the old wye will be out of service until the Conrail m-w guys get out there and change the rail; my roadforeman told me later that when he was down there and a FRA guy measured the rail, the one side of the curve had an inch and a 8th of the railhead wore off. Conrail had just dropped some new rail to put on the curve there, they were just a little too late with that project.

[Fred]

Talked to the diesel machanic at work today and he said they had to change out 2 traction motors on the Amtrak eng.

[KenB]

I was told the FRA rule is 6 feet away from the closest rail. Yes crossing flashers are closer.

[OwlCaboose2853]

I was told the FRA rule is 6 feet away from the closest rail. Yes crossing flashers are closer.

6 ft away - That's platforms.
Crossing flashers are closer - That's in big public cities

[ConrailDetr​oit]

Wierd, two years in a row Amtrak has derailed in Detroit while i was on vacation up north.

This year at Scotten and last year at Milwaukee Jct - both in the same month too.

[JANGAJONGA]

B34 headed west around Wayne at this time... might be saying NS334 but my guess is B34 7:00 am

yes! it seems now that B34 is running in the early morning? i can't wait to catch him when i get back! unless of course right when i get back he starts running in the middle of the night again:(