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Re: GRE Grand Rapids Eastern (Lowell)
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 11:06 am
by SD80MAC
GDLK interchanges with GRE directly at Fuller. All CPMY traffic from the GDLK must go via GRE, as does any CPMY traffic from CSX. The Elk has direct access to GRE via the old interchange agreement from the Conrail/GTW/C&O days. All GDLK-MQT traffic has to go via CSX at Wyoming yard. MQT does have rights to pick up and set off engines for GRE at Fuller, but not railcars.
Re: GRE Grand Rapids Eastern
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 11:07 am
by kd_1014
NS3322 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 10:11 am
SD80MAC wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:21 am
Once they get back to Grand Rapids, they split up their outbounds for CSX and GDLK (each RR has their own interchange track at Fuller), then put their engine in the barn.
Does GDLK interchange directly with MQT or CPMY? Or are both these handled via CSX and/or GRE?
Interchanges with MQT via CSX. Interchanges directly with the GRE at Fuller Jct and interchanges CPMY via GRE
Re: GRE Grand Rapids Eastern (Lowell)
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 2:58 pm
by run8ed
GRE came in this morning (Monday) and probably pulled 20+ empties. Looks like they placed 25-30 onsite at King too--but I didn't make it past the siding at Segwun to see if they left any loads there. Maybe they will work M-W-F this week--the past two have been Tu-Th...
Re: GRE Grand Rapids Eastern (Lowell)
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 3:32 pm
by pudgy
30 more loads arrived for GRE on M326 on Sunday, so they will continue to be fed traffic for another week at least for now.
Re: GRE Grand Rapids Eastern
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 11:05 pm
by Jetlink
NS3322 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 10:11 am
SD80MAC wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:21 am
Once they get back to Grand Rapids, they split up their outbounds for CSX and GDLK (each RR has their own interchange track at Fuller), then put their engine in the barn.
Does GDLK interchange directly with MQT or CPMY? Or are both these handled via CSX and/or GRE?
Oh boy, Oh boy, Oh boy. Is that a loaded question. I'm going to go get my popcorn.
Re: GRE Grand Rapids Eastern (Lowell)
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 11:41 am
by Plannerdad
I think they just went east, but I missed them.
Re: GRE Grand Rapids Eastern (Lowell)
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 6:54 pm
by NS3322
SD80MAC wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 11:06 am
GDLK interchanges with GRE directly at Fuller. All CPMY traffic from the GDLK must go via GRE, as does any CPMY traffic from CSX. The Elk has direct access to GRE via the old interchange agreement from the Conrail/GTW/C&O days. All GDLK-MQT traffic has to go via CSX at Wyoming yard. MQT does have rights to pick up and set off engines for GRE at Fuller, but not railcars.
kd_1014 wrote:
Interchanges with MQT via CSX. Interchanges directly with the GRE at Fuller Jct and interchanges CPMY via GRE
Thank you both for the info!
Re: GRE Grand Rapids Eastern (Lowell)
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:29 pm
by Plannerdad
Both sidings south of Lowell are full of hoppers, plus around King is mostly full.
Re: GRE Grand Rapids Eastern (Lowell)
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2023 6:41 am
by Andy24
I’m curious where does Y297 crew put the loaded covered hoppers for GRE at from recent M326s. Probably the GRE Yard by Fuller Junction?
Re: GRE Grand Rapids Eastern (Lowell)
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2023 9:45 am
by Plannerdad
CSX usually brings the loaded hoppers into the yard on Ann St (Fuller). I have not checked today.
Re: GRE Grand Rapids Eastern (Lowell)
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2023 9:48 am
by GRRailFan08
GRE heard by Eastern ave, couldn’t tell direction, presumably west
Re: GRE Grand Rapids Eastern (Lowell)
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2023 10:14 am
by SD80MAC
Andy24 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 6:41 am
I’m curious where does Y297 crew put the loaded covered hoppers for GRE at from recent M326s. Probably the GRE Yard by Fuller Junction?
No place else to put them unless they leave them in Wyoming yard until GRE has room.
Re: GRE Grand Rapids Eastern (Lowell)
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2023 11:43 am
by Plannerdad
GRE yard on Ann St. is full.
Re: GRE Grand Rapids Eastern (Lowell)
Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2023 12:22 pm
by GRRailFan08
GRE heard by Plymouth Ave, unknown direction
Re: GRE Grand Rapids Eastern (Lowell)
Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2023 11:19 am
by run8ed
I'm hoping to get out and video GRE today (Friday) if they are running. Room for maybe 10 cars at King--both tracks at Segwan/Malta are full of hoppers, leaving only the main. Not sure how this will work the next time they come into town? Perhaps they will have to leave the inbound train west of Lowell until after switching is completed.
Always a variety of inbound cars: BNSF, UP, NS, TCW, plus unknown sources like AEX, OFOX, and NOKL. Saw a few CP family cars at Segwun too...
Re: GRE Grand Rapids Eastern (Lowell)
Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2023 12:52 pm
by Andy24
run8ed wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 11:19 am
I'm hoping to get out and video GRE today (Friday) if they are running. Room for maybe 10 cars at King--both tracks at Segwan/Malta are full of hoppers, leaving only the main. Not sure how this will work the next time they come into town? Perhaps they will have to leave the inbound train west of Lowell until after switching is completed.
Always a variety of inbound cars: BNSF, UP, NS, TCW, plus unknown sources like AEX, OFOX, and NOKL. Saw a few CP family cars at Segwun too...
There’s a lot of AEX covered hoppers that sits in Hughart Yard in Grand Rapids, unknown if Grand Elk drops off these cars in Wyoming Yard, than Y297 grabs them and drops them off at GRE Yard at Fuller Junction
Re: GRE Grand Rapids Eastern (Lowell)
Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2023 1:04 pm
by cnw8835
Andy24 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 12:52 pm
run8ed wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 11:19 am
I'm hoping to get out and video GRE today (Friday) if they are running. Room for maybe 10 cars at King--both tracks at Segwan/Malta are full of hoppers, leaving only the main. Not sure how this will work the next time they come into town? Perhaps they will have to leave the inbound train west of Lowell until after switching is completed.
Always a variety of inbound cars: BNSF, UP, NS, TCW, plus unknown sources like AEX, OFOX, and NOKL. Saw a few CP family cars at Segwun too...
There’s a lot of AEX covered hoppers that sits in Hughart Yard in Grand Rapids, unknown if Grand Elk drops off these cars in Wyoming Yard, than Y297 grabs them and drops them off at GRE Yard at Fuller Junction
The new AEX cars at Hughart are in storage there.
Re: GRE Grand Rapids Eastern (Lowell)
Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2023 1:47 pm
by SD80MAC
Andy24 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 12:52 pm
run8ed wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 11:19 am
I'm hoping to get out and video GRE today (Friday) if they are running. Room for maybe 10 cars at King--both tracks at Segwan/Malta are full of hoppers, leaving only the main. Not sure how this will work the next time they come into town? Perhaps they will have to leave the inbound train west of Lowell until after switching is completed.
Always a variety of inbound cars: BNSF, UP, NS, TCW, plus unknown sources like AEX, OFOX, and NOKL. Saw a few CP family cars at Segwun too...
There’s a lot of AEX covered hoppers that sits in Hughart Yard in Grand Rapids, unknown if Grand Elk drops off these cars in Wyoming Yard, than Y297 grabs them and drops them off at GRE Yard at Fuller Junction
Per the earlier replies to this thread, Grand Elk and GRE interchange directly with each other at Fuller.
Re: GRE Grand Rapids Eastern (Lowell)
Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2023 1:54 pm
by run8ed
Are those AEX cars loaded? Should be easy to tell because hoppers will either be fully loaded or fully empty--they do not load or unload them partially. The gap between the bolster and the side frame will tell the story!
Does GRE share a crew with Michigan Shore? It seems as if GRE runs only 2 or 3 times a week. I didn't catch them today.
Re: GRE Grand Rapids Eastern (Lowell)
Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2023 2:01 pm
by SD80MAC
GRE does not currently have its own crew and hasn’t for years. GRE is run by either the Muskegon MS crew or the Alma MMRR crew depending on the day. That’s supposed to be changing soon.