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Re: CP to Buy KCS

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 9:36 am
by kd_1014
It was me I rode the train cause im buying KCS

Re: CP to Buy KCS

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:14 pm
by SD80MAC
kd_1014 wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 9:36 am
It was me I rode the train cause im buying KCS
I KNEW IT

Re: CP to Buy KCS

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 8:33 am
by David Collins
Drove by the KCS yard here in Kansas City, one of the signs said Canadian Pacific & Kansas City Southern, so I guess the merger is really starting to come into effect here.

Re: CP to Buy KCS

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 8:48 am
by AARR
Remember when SF and SP started painting engines only to have their agreement rescinded :lol:
David Collins wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 8:33 am
Drove by the KCS yard here in Kansas City, one of the signs said Canadian Pacific & Kansas City Southern, so I guess the merger is really starting to come into effect here.

Re: CP to Buy KCS

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:07 am
by DaveO
Kodachrome :!: but not for long 8)

Re: CP to Buy KCS

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:10 am
by Standard Railfan
David Collins wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 8:33 am
Drove by the KCS yard here in Kansas City, one of the signs said Canadian Pacific & Kansas City Southern, so I guess the merger is really starting to come into effect here.
CPR has served Kansas City for decades. I do not believe “the merger is really starting to come into effect here.“

Re: CP to Buy KCS

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:18 am
by DaveO
If it's this sign, google captured the image back during May, 2015.
https://goo.gl/maps/a4h7mgm2wz4ZV59F8
It used to state IC&E before it stated CP.

Re: CP to Buy KCS

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:03 am
by PerRock
STB approves the purchase of KCS by CP.
The Surface Transportation Board today issued its decision approving the acquisition of Kansas City Southern Railway Company (KCS) by Canadian Pacific Railway Limited (CP), with conditions. The decision includes an unprecedented seven-year oversight period and contains many conditions designed to mitigate environmental impacts, preserve competition, protect railroad workers, and promote efficient passenger rail. The Board also anticipates the merger will result in improvements in safety and the reduction of carbon emissions.
https://www.stb.gov/news-communications ... /pr-23-07/

Re: CP to Buy KCS

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:07 am
by Talk
PerRock wrote:
Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:03 am
STB approves the purchase of KCS by CP.
The Surface Transportation Board today issued its decision approving the acquisition of Kansas City Southern Railway Company (KCS) by Canadian Pacific Railway Limited (CP), with conditions. The decision includes an unprecedented seven-year oversight period and contains many conditions designed to mitigate environmental impacts, preserve competition, protect railroad workers, and promote efficient passenger rail. The Board also anticipates the merger will result in improvements in safety and the reduction of carbon emissions.
https://www.stb.gov/news-communications ... /pr-23-07/
when they say "promote efficient passenger rail", does that imply new passenger rail or just improvements to current routes?

Re: CP to Buy KCS

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:17 am
by justin_gram
Talk wrote:
Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:07 am
PerRock wrote:
Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:03 am
STB approves the purchase of KCS by CP.
The Surface Transportation Board today issued its decision approving the acquisition of Kansas City Southern Railway Company (KCS) by Canadian Pacific Railway Limited (CP), with conditions. The decision includes an unprecedented seven-year oversight period and contains many conditions designed to mitigate environmental impacts, preserve competition, protect railroad workers, and promote efficient passenger rail. The Board also anticipates the merger will result in improvements in safety and the reduction of carbon emissions.
https://www.stb.gov/news-communications ... /pr-23-07/
when they say "promote efficient passenger rail", does that imply new passenger rail or just improvements to current routes?
Passenger Rail – CP has one of the best Amtrak on-time performance records in the industry and has won Amtrak’s support for this merger. CPKC has committed to supporting Amtrak’s expansion plans, and to funding infrastructure improvements. As a result of the merger, CPKC will allow Amtrak to add new passenger service over the KCS-owned lines between New Orleans and Baton Rouge and the CP-owned lines through the Detroit River Tunnel between Detroit, Mich. and Windsor, Ontario. The Board recognizes the agreements between CP and Amtrak and imposes them as a condition for merger approval.

The Board also requires CPKC to adhere to the numerous commitments made regarding Metra and the surrounding Chicago communities, including: Installing and funding Positive Train Control wireless technology tie-ins at crossings located adjacent to Metra platforms; not permitting CPKC freight trains running between Kansas City, Missouri, and St. Paul, Minnesota, to operate over certain Metra Lines, except in emergency or other non-routine situations or when agreed upon; installing and funding Intelligent Transportation Systems Interconnect for Advanced Warning Signs and a predictive mobility system to deliver advanced notice of blocked crossings; and working with Metra to enhance communication about dispatching decisions to avoid delay to Metra’s scheduled trains. The decision also establishes a dispute resolution mechanism to ensure that any service issues between Metra and CPKC are handled in a timely and cooperative manner.

Re: CP to Buy KCS

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2023 12:36 pm
by NS3322
Looks like the "Empress" will indeed be headed to Mexico City.

Re: CP to Buy KCS

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2023 2:39 pm
by David Collins
A wise man once said, "Just a feeling I got, that somethings about to happen, and I don't know what. If I think it means what I think it means, we are in trouble, big trouble".


Kinda sums up my thoughts on this situation.

Bonus points to whoever can guess the song/artist :)

Re: CP to Buy KCS

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2023 3:36 pm
by penn central
None of the other railroads that wanted concessions got anything so im thinking Clinton Iowa will be a very interesting place to railfan we will see how UP treats these CPKC trains or what kind of priority they receive on the shared track in town.

Re: CP to Buy KCS

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2023 4:52 pm
by SD80MAC
David Collins wrote:
Wed Mar 15, 2023 2:39 pm
A wise man once said, "Just a feeling I got, that somethings about to happen, and I don't know what. If I think it means what I think it means, we are in trouble, big trouble".


Kinda sums up my thoughts on this situation.

Bonus points to whoever can guess the song/artist :)
Eminem's "Rap God"

Re: CP to Buy KCS

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2023 9:08 pm
by Robertrains
:shock: I myself wanted Kansas City Southern® to stay independent! Though this should be interesting! CP/KC will allow Amtrak® to finally go back through the Detroit tunnel to Windsor!!!! This shall be good! Maybe they finally will use the old Michigan Central® station, though it seems Ford® tore out the tracks! Originally I thought they were keeping tracks in place for future train travel! Recently torn out and now trains may come back? Huh!!!!! :shock: :? :shock: 🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯 😳 😳 😳 😳 🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯

Also, I don't see Panama Canal Railway® as part of the transaction! Will that railway once again be independent? :?: I rode that train with my late Dad (RCJ I)! 😳 😳 😳 😳

Check out this picture that I (RLJ II) took of the Panama Canal Railway® train we are about to board, March 2009, Colón, Panama (Canon 35mm S.L.R.): Image
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=5571793

Re: CP to Buy KCS

Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 9:29 am
by David Collins
The reaction from the 12 year old foamers on instagram is comical, now they're bashing KCS for buying out CP instead of bashing NS as the worst railroad ever because they won't wash their heritage units :lol: , I guess you were right Mr. Saturnalia!

Re: CP to Buy KCS

Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:16 am
by CSXT9040
David Collins wrote:
Thu Mar 16, 2023 9:29 am
The reaction from the 12 year old foamers on instagram is comical, now they're bashing KCS for buying out CP instead of bashing NS as the worst railroad ever because they won't wash their heritage units :lol: , I guess you were right Mr. Saturnalia!
LOL! I won’t name him but a person on instagram went on a rant about how it should’ve been CNKC instead of CPKC, popcorn anyone?

Re: CP to Buy KCS

Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:29 am
by David Collins
Railfan_Julian8849 wrote:
Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:16 am
...popcorn anyone?
A dump truck of it with extra butter :)

Re: CP to Buy KCS

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 12:51 pm
by CSXT9040
The rumor that CP will buy the Grand Rapids and Plymouth subs has started up again on Facebook, I need to restock my popcorn

Re: CP to Buy KCS

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 1:25 pm
by atrainguy60
CP's aiming for an April 14th start date for CPKC.

https://www.trains.com/trn/news-reviews ... tart-date/

Also, they're aiming to start hotshot perishable service between Chicago and Mexico later this spring.

https://www.trains.com/trn/news-reviews ... shipments/