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Interesting info but a pair of grain trains every 10 days doesn't sound like much. Does anyone know if this is more or fewer of these than they used to run?

JG

MQT1223 wrote: There isn't even container ships on the GREAT LAKES. Take them things to Toledo, Detroit, Chicago... not TRAVERSE CITY. After reading all these posts, I marvel at all the misinformation floating around and how long it took to get to the real truth. I'm an outside observer, and obvious...

Thanks for all the interesting info guys (esp. C&O dispatcher), I grew up in the 70s along the DTI (Dearborn Branch in Taylor) and often visited the aunt and uncle who lived in Carleton back then and saw lots of DTI and Chessie action. Sure miss those busy and colorful days...

JG

there hasn't been any recent coke trains to gary from rouge there have been inbound blocks of coke cars periodically from gary that come in on a492 and then south on L508 Just to clarify, there is no coke that comes specifically from USS Gary since that is a different company than Rouge owner Cliff...

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Mon Jan 22, 2024 10:42 am

Does anyone know how long Guardian has been there?

I started seeing the "Glass Man" sometime in the late 70s/early 80s...

JG

The line crossing the Holly sub just west of 75 is the former Detroit Terminal mainline. This is essentially the eastern end of the referenced Highland Park Industrial track on the Knorek website. The Detroit Terminal and Union Belt were, in a way, the competing terminal railroads in Detroit. Anywh...

Off the top of my head, NYC had Stanley, Whitmore Yard just north of the TT crossing, and Oakdale Yard at the connection with the Chicago Line. PRR had its Outer Yard also just north of the TT in Walbridge (running about 20 trains a day up to PC merger) on their Toledo Branch, and the C&O of course ...

You’re not going to see many. Yeah, not like the halcyon days of the mid- to late-70s. At least 14-16 on the DT&I, 20-25 on the Chessie and then there was a period (maybe a year or so) when the newly-formed CR ran all their Detroit Line northbounds through Carleton to the ex-Pennsy when they totall...

Hey LRF, "Ok, so if we assume cars/trains coming up the NS Detroit line (Ex Wabash) to Detroit, and its destination was Toronto, how would the CN Dearborn Sub even be involved at all?? Cars/trains would go past the NS Melvindale Yard, past Delray, then up the Mt. Clemens Sub to Pt. Huron and onto T...

I often go back to this site when looking for information for my model railroad, or if I just want to remenber "the good ole days" of Plymouth. You want good ol' days try this link. More trains than your eyeballs could probably handle: https://members4.boardhost.com/RRHXHistory/msg/1578165000.html E...

DaveO:

"But his post was from 2019 and yours is from 2022?"

Yeah, saw that but my post was just in case anyone might still think any current moves are for USS. Maybe some folks might not have been paying attention...

JG

KenB wrote:
"The plant grinds coal for blast furnace injection for both USS Great Lakes Works and AK Steel Dearborn Works."


Except that USS GLW doesn't use its blast furnaces or make steel anymore...

JG

Anything using the newer NYC-PM connection these days that was built to better handle the CP traffic to CSX, since all their traffic is now on NS? Has CSX ever given thought to running their Canadian interchange traffic in one train directly to Toledo or GR, bypassing Rougemere altogether? JG

[quote="atrainguy60"] "It isn't going to be steel mill" Oh, really? Good thing we can count on you for factual information. Your credibility has plummeted in my book, and you were the one buying into a false rumor: http://www.autonews.com/article/20171204/OEM10/171209904/ohio-firm-eyes-major-steel-p...

They still run trains through Plymouth??

[quote="AARR"]That's about half of what it was in the CR days Uh, no. For decades during CR, the Detroit Line saw about 20 trains a day, usually 12-16 manifests (depending on the economy) and the rest unit trains of various types. So, if they're only running 10 trains a day now then what you say is ...

There is already plans in the works to build a new Cliffs Natural Resources Inc. iron ore processing plant at the Port of Toledo. Toledo has the existing railroad and docks to make the project work. http://www.toledoblade.com/local/2017/06/15/Kaptur-welcomes-Cliffs-to-Port-of-Toledo.html Yes, and k...

I'm not trying to be the downer here, but what is the benefit of building in Durand? Yes, it has the rail connections and the nearby highway connection, but is it near the source of the raw materials? No. Is it near the customer? Not unless something else big is happening we haven't heard about. If...

What was railfanning like in the 1990s? Was CSX busy? How many GTW trains were on the Shoreline sub? I know Conrail was busy, That NS line in Romulus was it always NS? Was it fun to railfan in the metro Detroit area in the 1990s? I know these days Plymouth on has 15 trains or so a day. CN in Wyando...

Figure it this way:

NS Detroit Line: 20-25
10-12 on the Shore Line (CN)
CP through the tunnel, 12-14
NS/CSX through the tunnel, 4-6?
CSX from Lincoln Secondary, around 4
Locals, transfers and Boat Yard trains all gravy.

50-55 road trains, give or take, sounds about right on a typical day.

JG