Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby SD80MAC » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:27 am

blueheron13 wrote:I mean it originates in Flint just like D736. Maybe I'm not using the right terms?

D711 is based out of Port Huron, unless something has changed very recently.
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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby blueheron13 » Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:06 pm

D711 generally leaves Flint in the late morning and returns from Port Huron in the late afternoon. A rail fan on Michigan Railroads often gives a heads up when it enters the CN Flint Sub. I caught it today returning to McGrew Yard in the middle of the afternoon.
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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby AARR » Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:38 pm

I think there are periods it will operate three days a week rather than daily
blueheron13 wrote:D711 generally leaves Flint in the late morning and returns from Port Huron in the late afternoon. A rail fan on Michigan Railroads often gives a heads up when it enters the CN Flint Sub. I caught it today returning to McGrew Yard in the middle of the afternoon.
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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby GreatLakesRailfan » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:21 am

I'm pretty sure it's daily (or almost daily) at this point. I usually see the inbound cars heading toward St Clair when I check the mail at the wye on my way home from work, regardless of which day I stop.

AARR wrote:I think there are periods it will operate three days a week rather than daily
blueheron13 wrote:D711 generally leaves Flint in the late morning and returns from Port Huron in the late afternoon. A rail fan on Michigan Railroads often gives a heads up when it enters the CN Flint Sub. I caught it today returning to McGrew Yard in the middle of the afternoon.
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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby AARR » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:50 am

A daily schedule make sense for this time of year because LPG is the primary commodity handled on the line and both terminals get a lot of it now
GreatLakesRailfan wrote:I'm pretty sure it's daily (or almost daily) at this point. I usually see the inbound cars heading toward St Clair when I check the mail at the wye on my way home from work, regardless of which day I stop.

AARR wrote:I think there are periods it will operate three days a week rather than daily
blueheron13 wrote:D711 generally leaves Flint in the late morning and returns from Port Huron in the late afternoon. A rail fan on Michigan Railroads often gives a heads up when it enters the CN Flint Sub. I caught it today returning to McGrew Yard in the middle of the afternoon.
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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby Saturnalia » Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:00 am

It's worth noting that there's a decent chance that this takeover is delayed due to the ongoing federal government shutdown. The STB is 100% closed and thus they aren't processing any cases. The last filings to make it to the website were from 21 Dec.
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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby Saturnalia » Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:06 am

Also it looks like LSRC has purchased 6 SD50-2s from CSXT...to be confirmed
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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby MQT1223 » Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:11 am

Saturnalia wrote:Also it looks like LSRC has purchased 6 SD50-2s from CSXT...to be confirmed


That’s cool... SD50-2’s returning to work on home rails. Can’t wait to see them in the Lake State Paint.
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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby DaveO » Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:13 pm

MQT1223 wrote:
Saturnalia wrote:Also it looks like LSRC has purchased 6 SD50-2s from CSXT...to be confirmed


That’s cool... SD50-2’s returning to work on home rails. Can’t wait to see them in the Lake State Paint.


That's probably not a sentiment shared by CSX employees. Given the rails are being rented and the engines sold, that's not much of a homecoming.
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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby NS3322 » Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:22 pm

DaveO wrote:
MQT1223 wrote:
Saturnalia wrote:Also it looks like LSRC has purchased 6 SD50-2s from CSXT...to be confirmed


That’s cool... SD50-2’s returning to work on home rails. Can’t wait to see them in the Lake State Paint.


That's probably not a sentiment shared by CSX employees. Given the rails are being rented and the engines sold, that's not much of a homecoming.


Will there be any job losses as a result of this? Or are impacted employees being given the opportunity to relocate?
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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby Saturnalia » Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:04 pm

NS3322 wrote:Will there be any job losses as a result of this? Or are impacted employees being given the opportunity to relocate?

Shouldn't be many cuts. As per usual the Lake State will likely offer to keep most people who want to stay local. The CSX folks will have to relocate if they don't want to switch roads. But usually the shortlines try to keep the original folks cause they know the railroad.

The SD50-2s are supposedly 2477, 2490, 2498, 8527, 8577, and 8599

It should be noted that these are really just SD50s, CSX added the -2 to designate that they're limited to 3000hp.
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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby Doktor No » Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:20 pm

All CSX employees effected can bump their seniority to any positions open and anyone junior to their seniority. Not a problem unless your are the most juniorist with nowhere to go except out of town. Then you may choose to go Lake States. Trainmen can bump to the nearest terminal they can hold.
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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby NS3322 » Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:21 pm

Doktor No wrote:All CSX employees effected can bump their seniority to any positions open and anyone junior to their seniority. Not a problem unless your are the most juniorist with nowhere to go except out of town. Then you may choose to go Lake States. Trainmen can bump to the nearest terminal they can hold.


Saturnalia wrote:Shouldn't be many cuts. As per usual the Lake State will likely offer to keep most people who want to stay local. The CSX folks will have to relocate if they don't want to switch roads. But usually the shortlines try to keep the original folks cause they know the railroad.


My assumptions were correct. Thanks for the information guys.
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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

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