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Can i ask for some help. For a lecture i need current trains movements by delray, nothing specific, just what is due by from 9am to noon, and noon to 5 pm,, i know some moves are regular, some are as needed but any help is appreciated
Dave jakkubiec

As far as I know the count for Delray over 24 hours is between 30-40 moves or so these days. From 9 to noon you typically will get something like this:

2-4 CP (H95, H96-if fast, 130 generally, and sometimes any of the other freights if they are "early" or "late")
1-2 NS (could be a 176, 121 if early, could be a Detroit Line train, generally kinda slow for NS)
2-3 CN (there is a Q116 that normally runs this time frame or an A450, E251, generally two manifest come through midday)
CSX 1(ish)- the yard job will pull down to the tower when working the east end

From noon to 5 it is something like this

2-4 CP (131 is generally PM, 528 and 529 when running are normally PM in this area, the H96 could make it after lunch)
4-6 NS (31M, 20N, 21N, 121, an possibly a Detroit Line rack train NB)
2-3 CN (CN manifests/ mixed freights which symbols escape me)
2-6 CSX (All 4 intermodals, I150, I151, I132, I131 generally run afternoon into the evening based on my time there, but some will be after or before, CSX Boat Line job will go to the boat line in the afternoon)
0-1 Conrail (the St. Marys cement job will sometimes pull down the lead towards delray, it is not common these days for a Conrail job to come by during the morning or afternoon)

Thank you very helpful, used to go for lunch , but retired 5 years ago and except for the tower closing, haven’t been back, its a long drive with road construction,thans again dave jakubiec

Admin edit: added Nick's new topic to this existing one:

So I have heard about Delray Junction being a hotspot in Michigan I know theres about 40 trains a day but is there anywhere to park and is it a safe area to get out? Anyways this is what I have come up with train wise
CSX I150
CSX I151
CSX L302
CSX L303
NS 12E
NS 237
NS 255
NS 256
NS 272
NS 273
NS 414
NS 415
NS 41M
NS 422
NS 423
NS 424
NS 425
NS 48E
NS 49E
NS 858
NS 878
NS 879
NS 881
NS 883
NS B49
NS 176
NS 121
NS 26G
NS 31M
CPKC 130
CPKC 131
CPKC 230
CPKC 231
CPKC 137
CPKC 234
CPKC 528
CPKC 529
CPKC 02H
CN A450-61
CN E231-31
CN E271-21
CN E280-91
CN E296-71
CN L507-61
CN L508-61
CN M371-61
CN M384-61
CN M385-31
CN Q116-91
CN M382-61
CN S756-81

CSXT L302 and L303 won’t pass through Delray unless they are wying the power, but yard job Y194 (I think) heads east from Rougemere to work the Boat Yard Line weekday mornings and back again in the afternoon. NS has a Boat Yard Line job too but I don’t recall the symbol.

GP30M4216 wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:02 pm

CSXT L302 and L303 won’t pass through Delray unless they are wying the power, but yard job Y194 (I think) heads east from Rougemere to work the Boat Yard Line weekday mornings and back again in the afternoon. NS has a Boat Yard Line job too but I don’t recall the symbol.

I belive Delray is around 35 trains a day from stuff I have heard is there anywhere to park leagally and is the area safe?

Nick, please see the following regarding the CN trains you listed:

Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

CN A450-61 - Old symbol, doesn't run anymore at all!
CN E231-31 - Never heard of this symbol. Does not run at all to my knowledge.
CN E251-xx - Active Symbol, Not sure if this train goes by Delray, Daily Manifest Flat Rock to Chicago.
CN E271-21 - Active symbol, typically runs Pt. Huron to Detroit on the Mt. Clemens sub, runs as needed and is not a daily train.
CN E280-91 - Active symbol, Chicago to Durand and down the Holly Sub to Detroit, runs as needed and is not a daily train.
CN E296-71 - Active symbol, but has only ran a handful of times in the last couple of years.
CN M356-xx - Active symbol, has run more often than 296, although is still a rare train. Chicago to Durand, and down the Holly Sub to Flatrock.
CN L507-61 - Daily train, Flatrock to Flint on the Holly Sub.
CN L508-61 - Daily train, Flint to Flatrock on the Holly Sub.
CN M371-61 - Active Symbol "I think", but lately he runs West on the Flint Sub from Canada to Battle Creek, so he typically does not run down the Holly Sub, and thus does not run past Delray, and only runs as needed.
CN M384-61 - Daily Manifest, Flat Rock to Toronto, Mt. Clemens Sub.
CN M385-31 - Daily Manifest, Toronto to Flat Rock, Mt. Clemens Sub.
CN Q116-91 - Daily Manifest, Chicago to Durand, and down the Holly Sub to Ferndale (Moterm) and onto Flat Rock when he has autoracks.
CN M382-61 - Daily Manifest, Lang Yard Toledo to Toronto, Mt. Clemens Sub and Shortline Sub.
CN M383-xx - Daily Manifest, Toronto to Lang Yard Toledo, Mt. Clemens Sub and Shortline Sub.
CN S756-81 - Active Symbol, but only runs once in a while. Per LansingRailfan, S75661 is the empty train. S75681 is the loaded train. Chicago to Durand, and down the Holly and Shoreline subs to Toledo with Westbound counterpart back to Chicago.

David Lang wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:51 pm

S75681 is the loaded train. Chicago to Durand, and down the Holly and Shoreline subs to Toledo. Where I goes after that I don't know.

Normally they run down to (ironically with your username) Lang Yard in Toledo and get handed off to the W&LE.

Hey David Collins,

Yeah, I’ve always wondered if I have some long lost relative in Toledo that they named Lang Yard after, lol.

I should have mentioned Lang Yard instead of just “Toledo” pertaining to S756.

NickThatRailfan wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:32 pm

Admin edit: added Nick's new topic to this existing one:

So I have heard about Delray Junction being a hotspot in Michigan I know theres about 40 trains a day but is there anywhere to park and is it a safe area to get out? Anyways this is what I have come up with train wise
CSX I150
CSX I151
CSX L302
CSX L303
NS 12E
NS 237
NS 255
NS 256
NS 272
NS 273
NS 414
NS 415
NS 41M
NS 422
NS 423
NS 424
NS 425
NS 48E
NS 49E
NS 858
NS 878
NS 879
NS 881
NS 883
NS B49
NS 176
NS 121
NS 26G
NS 31M
CPKC 130
CPKC 131
CPKC 230
CPKC 231
CPKC 137
CPKC 234
CPKC 528
CPKC 529
CPKC 02H
CN A450-61
CN E231-31
CN E271-21
CN E280-91
CN E296-71
CN L507-61
CN L508-61
CN M371-61
CN M384-61
CN M385-31
CN Q116-91
CN M382-61
CN S756-81

Dear Admin aka AARR,

While you meant well, he’s so far off base you’ve just ruined the original post.

E231-31 Runs as needed from Toronto, ON to Flat Rock

Plenty of traffic in that area doesn't actually go by Delray.

Most NS northbound trains leave the Detroit Line at YD.

CSX intermodals can use the connection at CP Lou. Same with CP trains to and from Oak Yard.

CSX trains can pull up to Delray when yarding a train at Rougemere. The furthest I've seen them was over to Harbaugh Street.

CP runs transfer jobs to CSX and NS. You have none of those listed. Also nothing from the Shared Assets.

CN numbers can vary. Autorack extras used to be more common.

NickThatRailfan wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 26, 2023 2:23 am

E231-31 Runs as needed from Toronto, ON to Flat Rock

E230/E231 last ran in 2016.

Doesn't DCON cut through there to go to Milwaukee Junction?

Delray wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:52 pm

Doesn't DCON cut through there to go to Milwaukee Junction?

It does not.

GTW6401 wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 26, 2023 7:55 pm

Plenty of traffic in that area doesn't actually go by Delray.

Most NS northbound trains leave the Detroit Line at YD.

CSX intermodals can use the connection at CP Lou. Same with CP trains to and from Oak Yard.

CSX trains can pull up to Delray when yarding a train at Rougemere. The furthest I've seen them was over to Harbaugh Street.

CP runs transfer jobs to CSX and NS. You have none of those listed. Also nothing from the Shared Assets.

CN numbers can vary. Autorack extras used to be more common.

Then how many trains actually pass Delray in a 24 hour period

NickThatRailfan wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 28, 2023 3:30 pm

Then how many trains actually pass Delray in a 24 hour period

NickThatRailfan wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:32 pm

I know theres about 40 trains a day

There be your answer it seems; you answered your question before asking it

LRF - if anything, combining these threads made the original post even more outstanding.

Dear LRF, you keep incorrectly blaming me for administrative stuff. You're wrong again. This was not me.

LansingRailFan wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 8:51 pm

Dear Admin aka AARR,

While you meant well, he’s so far off base you’ve just ruined the original post.

I'm going with 25 trains on an average day at Delray.

My list of symbols is more realistic. I also don't put much emphasis on extras.

~Z~ wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 28, 2023 3:35 pm

NickThatRailfan wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 28, 2023 3:30 pm

Then how many trains actually pass Delray in a 24 hour period

NickThatRailfan wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:32 pm

I know theres about 40 trains a day

There be your answer it seems; you answered your question before asking it

LRF - if anything, combining these threads made the original post even more outstanding.

Ah, okay I take it the yard jobs and the CP transfers make up for the trains that dont go through there? Also another question why does NS 176 even have a purpose of running if it only runs a short distance between River Rouge and Sterling Heights?