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Ford wants $240 m for Michigan Central Station

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:14 pm
by trainjunkie47
Ford says it needs more than $239 million in public tax incentives to make good on its $740 million promise to redevelop the Michigan Central Depot and adjacent parcels— more than $100 million from cash-strapped Detroit

Read the rest of today's Detroit Free Press column here:
https://www.freep.com/story/opinion/col ... 267176002/

Re: Ford wants $240 m for Michigan Central Station

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:24 pm
by hoborich
HA! Well, at least they can't take their station and go somewhere else. :lol:

Re: Ford wants $240 m for Michigan Central Station

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 4:21 am
by Chip
Man, I am so sick of this company crying broke all the time. They have anywhere between $16B and $21B in the bank depending on what you read. They are still profitable despite their claims to the contrary. They aren't broke.

Full disclosure, I am a ford employee. In fact I'm wrapping up my shift at the Michigan Assembly Plant Stamping Plant as I type this.

Re: Ford wants $240 m for Michigan Central Station

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:49 pm
by Cinderpath
Considering what Ford has given Detroit over the past century, that people are griping about this I find interesting. Nobody squawked much at almost a billion dollars going for a sports stadium (LCA) when the city was bankrupt. The economic impact of this is huge, and people will use the facility daily (not just during events) and will employ people daily. I don't have a problem with such subsidies when there is a net economic benefit. LCA however was IMO a total waste of tax payers money for private team owners.

Re: Ford wants $240 m for Michigan Central Station

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:39 am
by Chip
It would be an easier pill to swallow if they would pay the police and firefighters better and properly fund their pensions.

Re: Ford wants $240 m for Michigan Central Station

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 2:02 pm
by NS3322
Chip wrote:Man, I am so sick of this company crying broke all the time. They have anywhere between $16B and $21B in the bank depending on what you read. They are still profitable despite their claims to the contrary. They aren't broke.

Full disclosure, I am a ford employee. In fact I'm wrapping up my shift at the Michigan Assembly Plant Stamping Plant as I type this.
Gutsy :lol: :lol:

Re: Ford wants $240 m for Michigan Central Station

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:03 pm
by Chip
NS3322 wrote:
Chip wrote:Man, I am so sick of this company crying broke all the time. They have anywhere between $16B and $21B in the bank depending on what you read. They are still profitable despite their claims to the contrary. They aren't broke.

Full disclosure, I am a ford employee. In fact I'm wrapping up my shift at the Michigan Assembly Plant Stamping Plant as I type this.
Gutsy :lol: :lol:
Not really, I use my phone. I'm not stupid enough to use a company computer where they can track me.

Re: Ford wants $240 m for Michigan Central Station

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:30 pm
by DBFanatic
"Man, I am so sick of this company crying broke all the time."

Is that more or less often than we hear the term "cash-strapped" used to describe Detroit?

Re: Ford wants $240 m for Michigan Central Station

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 8:01 pm
by Chip
DBFanatic wrote:"Man, I am so sick of this company crying broke all the time."

Is that more or less often than we hear the term "cash-strapped" used to describe Detroit?
in the last year since Jim Hackett took over? Way more, you just don't always see it in the media as much as you do internally.

Detroit Free Press Michigan Central Station Article

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:08 am
by jrgerber

Re: Detroit Free Press Michigan Central Station Article

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:43 am
by DaveO
Bye, bye sub-basement.

Re: Detroit Free Press Michigan Central Station Article

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:34 am
by Steve B
DaveO wrote:
Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:43 am
Bye, bye sub-basement.
Without knowing how thick the new concrete layer is and how high the ceiling is in the sub-basement, we can't assume that it's effectively being eliminated. In the days when media didn't rely almost exclusively on press releases, we would have learned that information.

Re: Ford wants $240 m for Michigan Central Station

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 3:19 pm
by PatAzo
The city can always say no and have an abandoned eye sore again.

Re: Ford wants $240 m for Michigan Central Station

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 3:35 pm
by DaveO
This thread was started back on September 12, 2018. I think Ford got their money.
The all powerful moderators :lol: thought it would be better to combine the thread about the newspaper article with the original thread.

Re: Ford wants $240 m for Michigan Central Station

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:49 pm
by ns8401
PatAzo wrote:
Mon Apr 26, 2021 3:19 pm
The city can always say no and have an abandoned eye sore again.
Tad late for that... it would be a rather nice eye sore at this point.

Re: Detroit Free Press Michigan Central Station Article

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:39 pm
by Chip
Steve B wrote:
Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:34 am
DaveO wrote:
Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:43 am
Bye, bye sub-basement.
Without knowing how thick the new concrete layer is and how high the ceiling is in the sub-basement, we can't assume that it's effectively being eliminated. In the days when media didn't rely almost exclusively on press releases, we would have learned that information.
It doesn't help that Ford doesn't say anything to anyone anymore, not even their own employees. Half the time I find out information via press release, the same as anyone else.

Re: Ford wants $240 m for Michigan Central Station

Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 5:32 am
by jrgerber

Re: Ford wants $240 m for Michigan Central Station

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:13 pm
by ConrailDetr​oit

Re: Ford wants $240 m for Michigan Central Station

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:53 pm
by GP30M4216
They can take my money. This project is truly incredible. Thanks for sharing these exterior photos.

If you've never seen it, this interior 3-D tour is amazing. Don't waste your time on a smartphone. This requires a real monitor to fully appreciate. It's about a year old at this point, but it a great record of work underway on the interior.

https://my.matterport.com/show/?m=nhQitTrsuMP&back=1

Re: Ford wants $240 m for Michigan Central Station

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:59 pm
by ConrailDetr​oit
Has there ever been lights illuminating every floor at MCS? If so, how many decades ago? The top two floors were never finished when the station was built.

ImageLights on all floors at Michigan Central by tcamp7837, on Flickr