LSRC Derailment - Bay City 10/13/06

Unread post by **~Z~** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 5:37 pm

LSRC put some on the ground today, tore up some track pretty good.

11 cars of stone derailed, 1 car is on it's side, stone dumped out.
Hulchers is on scene cleaning it up. One car is set to be scrapped, LSRC 5944. Said to be at the intersection near Hart St and Sidney St in Bay City. From a map, looks like it's at Defoe Park, near the Saginaw River.

All information word of mouth from Patrick via voicemail. He would have pictures, but his memory card is full, and so is his computer's hard drive. Thanks for the update!

patrick · Unread post by **patrick** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 5:42 pm

LSRC 5944 is not the car I was watching them cut. 5944 is west of hart street crossing on wheels waiting to be moved but its tore up bad on the ends. i'll have pics tonight of the site and cars. heading back there in a sec with cam. derailment is 6 minutes from my front door

Unread post by **AARR** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 5:49 pm

Seems like there's been a few derailments on LSRC recently. Is it due to track conditions not being able to handle long, heavy stone trains?

OwlCaboose2853 · Fri Oct 13, 2006 10:26 pm

Train derails Friday in Bay City

News article: http://abclocal.go.com/wjrt/story?secti ... id=4658712

Bad luck day, This today is Black Friday of October 13th.

Paul W · Unread post by **Paul W** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 10:35 pm

Patrick, did the 702 leave before the derailment?Is it trapped down in Durand? Just curius what what trains are where?

patrick · Unread post by **patrick** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 12:43 am

No Paul. The derailment isn't on HESR tracks. its on LSRC east of the HESR main. 702 got out and back in just fine running with the 5086, 2001, and 8804. 740 assisted in pulling the rear of the train back and shoving it over the bridge to the SBS side of the river. Look for trains next week to use BOTH bridges untill the main is repaired which ought to be a while as about 1000 feet of track is GONE.

patrick · Unread post by **patrick** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 6:09 am

ok.. pics edited..roughly 40 pics. some are dark, and blurry. sorry about the quality. i'm heading to bed now..soon as I wake up i'll upload the better ones and link it the others from another spot.

R Bedell · Unread post by **R Bedell** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 7:04 am

Channel 12's Terry Camp states "The railroad cars are owned by the Lake State Railway Company and the tracks are owned by the Huron and Eastern Saginaw Valley Railroad."

Isn't that section of track owned by LSRC...???

Justin · Unread post by **Justin** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 10:42 am

That is crazy. I have seen a number of trains right down there and they have always come through no problem. Anyway I believe actually I am certain that those tracks are LSRC, the news made a goof like usual.

R Bedell · Unread post by **R Bedell** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 12:31 pm

Would this be an accurate diagram of track ownership in that area? HESR in Blue and LSRC in Red.

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GJ · Unread post by GJ » Sat Oct 14, 2006 1:26 pm

that maps very accurate...an I love the drama channel
...or is that the news?? what a bunch of maroons...they
interview these women who have no idea what the trains
even move on those tracks,and yet...Oooooooh we are
all going to die an it was so loud...Give Me a Break....a
train with hopper gons carrying stones....people freak
out now when a blue jay drops on their car window....LOL.

I lived by tracks for alot of My life in Bay City and only
ever had 2 derailments an both were with loaded coal cars
an both were late at night...so I wish these reporters would
just go an talk with the railroad officials or the police in these matters
....cause the public...unless its a railfan, they are
so misinformed and really just over reactive,its very sad
and at the same time just obnoxiously funny...and some
of the reporters don't help either because they are terribly
bad with the facts on the story as well.

GJ

cmgnnut · Unread post by **cmgnnut** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 1:35 pm

Sorry but your map is wrong ! will send you a corrected one
GJ - haz material is carried down those tracks granted not everyday
QUIT blaming the news reporters at least they said something.
The derailment is away from homes in the area except for the last 2 or 3 houses by the roadway
IT'S A MESS DOWN THERE !

R Bedell · Unread post by **R Bedell** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 3:11 pm

GJ:

For 15 Yrs, I worked as a volunteer Firefighter. For 9 yrs, I worked as a volunteer EMT on a ambulance. NUMEROUS times I responded to an incident, only to read about it in the paper. Most of the time, I couldn't believe what I was reading. I was at the incident, yet what I read was totally different from what I experienced.
Does the news media get this wrong...??..You betcha! Unfortunately, it is all about ratings and the higher the hype gets, the better in their view. From my vantage point, the news is nothing more than entertainment anymore, if you want to call it that.

Paul W · Unread post by **Paul W** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 3:40 pm

There I go listening to what the news said ya know news first facts later.By the way, is 998 still in town or gone west yet?thanks in advance.

patrick · Unread post by **patrick** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 4:41 pm

ok.. the map isn't correct.. its close.. the southwest leg of the wye was ripped out almost 10 years ago. and the HESR has a siding now between har street and Marquette AVE. Now.. because i recieved a PM from a member.. let me explain ownership. the HESR ONLY owns their main line. the switch at hart street leading east towards the Wirt stone dock and such is OWNED by the LSRC. They own everything east of the HESR main. their tracks pick back up in Kawkawlin with the HESR owning way out to Old Kawkawlin road. Hope this helps.. please ask if you don't understand.

heres a link to derailment pics and video.

http://www.railroadfan.com/gallery/thum ... p?album=86

GJ · Unread post by GJ » Sat Oct 14, 2006 4:59 pm

just laughs an shakes my head...
same old people trying to run the
show....an they could not get the
info right the first time an now
they are saying that the rest of
us are wrong...first off it was 40
cars and yes it is wrong to add on
info to hype your own bells an
whistles an its also wrong to
say that others here donot have
an opinion that map is the correct
track area...the railroad atlas I have
from a rail company shows the same
dang thing......hauling stones is NOT
a major catastrophy...an if those
tracks would of been replaced years
ago, this would not of happen...but
then again look at how old the rail
cars an other equipment are too
GJ

GJ · Unread post by GJ » Sat Oct 14, 2006 5:01 pm

btw patrick...great pics...seems they turned
out really good...glad you were able to get
in their without too much hassle....appreciate it.

GJ

patrick · Unread post by **patrick** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 5:07 pm

remember GJ, its ok to have an oppion, but when posting, you must make sure others know that it is YOUR oppion. I fully agree with you however. this would not have happened if the tracks had been replaced or even taken care of. think about it.. 3 derailments on this railroad in like 3 weeks. what a disappointment.

GJ · Unread post by GJ » Sat Oct 14, 2006 5:14 pm

patrick...I agree with you....I know the STB
has been on them to do something more
with track replacement an maintenance it
seems...not sure how this situation gets
rectified if they donot want to put money
into it...I would think that putting new
track would guarantee better work success
an would show other potential customers
that they are serious. thanks, GJ

Justin · Unread post by **Justin** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 5:53 pm

Hey Patrick Nice pics. Looks like that was a pretty bad derailment. Too bad I wasn't home when it happened I could have seen the footage. Looks like one of the worst I have seen in Bay City, I saw the coal train derailment 3 years ago on the CSX in the southend and I think there were only 6 cars that came off. The track in that one wasn't as damaged either. From what I could see in your photos there is nothing left of those tracks. I wonder how long it will take them to repair the track. I will definately have to check out the site when I come home again, I will just stay clear if a train comes through. Saw a train on that track last month and seemed to be fine. It was a stone train too.

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