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Re: West Michigan RR Abandonment Petition Coming

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2023 10:58 am
by AARR
NS3322 wrote:
Tue Feb 14, 2023 10:22 am
I am trying to finish up the Wiki page I have been building for the KLSC. For some reason I cannot find good customer info for KLSC.

Coe Rail/MAL is next... :lol:
(This info needs to be written down somewhere in one place before its lost to time).
Thank you for doing this. I’ll assist you anyway I can.

Re: West Michigan RR Abandonment Petition Coming

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2023 1:37 pm
by NS3322
AARR wrote:
Tue Feb 14, 2023 10:58 am
NS3322 wrote:
Tue Feb 14, 2023 10:22 am
I am trying to finish up the Wiki page I have been building for the KLSC. For some reason I cannot find good customer info for KLSC.

Coe Rail/MAL is next... :lol:
(This info needs to be written down somewhere in one place before its lost to time).
Thank you for doing this. I’ll assist you anyway I can.
Appreciate it AARR!

I just reached out to a former KLSC employee and these are the customers he remembered:
Hanson Logistics - Hartford
Lawrence Cold Storage - Lawrence
Southwestern Michigan Feed - Lawrence
RMI Logistics - Paw Paw
Coca-Cola - Paw Paw

Still not exactly sure what they received, but it is a start.

Re: West Michigan RR Abandonment Petition Coming

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2023 2:34 pm
by AARR
NS3322 wrote:
Tue Feb 14, 2023 1:37 pm
I just reached out to a former KLSC employee and these are the customers he remembered:
Hanson Logistics - Hartford
Lawrence Cold Storage - Lawrence
Southwestern Michigan Feed - Lawrence
RMI Logistics - Paw Paw
Coca-Cola - Paw Paw

Still not exactly sure what they received, but it is a start.
My notes indicate Coca-Cola never received rail service. Also, I don't show anything for Southwestern Michigan Feed, but they might have been a customer back then.
Otherwise, your list and my notes are a match.
Hanson received tomato paste (and possibly other stuff) and shipped out frozen produce (and possibly other stuff). They were the largest shipper getting switched several times per week.
Lawrence Cold Storage and RMI received an occasional carload of produce.
KLSC forecasted 500 cars a year, but I doubt they got that close. They probably thought they would get some business from Coca-Cola and the canning plant in Paw Paw but it never materialized.

Re: West Michigan RR Abandonment Petition Coming

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2023 7:35 pm
by 12Bridge
Where did Lawrence Cold Storage get cars? They did not have a siding.

Re: West Michigan RR Abandonment Petition Coming

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2023 7:41 pm
by AARR
There were a couple small warehouses in-between Lawrence and Paw Paw. I don't know what the names of those were when KLSC operated the line but I figured one of them might have been Lawrence Cold Storage.
12Bridge wrote:
Tue Feb 14, 2023 7:35 pm
Where did Lawrence Cold Storage get cars? They did not have a siding.

Re: West Michigan RR Abandonment Petition Coming

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2023 7:50 pm
by NS3322
12Bridge wrote:
Tue Feb 14, 2023 7:35 pm
Where did Lawrence Cold Storage get cars? They did not have a siding.
What was the warehouse called where LTW Ergonomic Solutions is today?

Re: West Michigan RR Abandonment Petition Coming

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 10:44 am
by 12Bridge
I think that used to be Welch's.

Re: West Michigan RR Abandonment Petition Coming

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 2:37 pm
by GRHC
I read on a Railfan website that the WMI may no longer be transloading apples from refrigerated box cars for Gogo Squeez in Traverse City Michigan. Can anybody confirm this?
I know for a fact the WMI still receives refrigerated box cars but I’m not sure who they are for.

Re: West Michigan RR Abandonment Petition Coming

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 3:05 pm
by AARR
I think apples are seasonal. Gogo will use local sourcing whenever possible.

Does tomato paste arrive in refrigerated boxcars or in regular boxcars?
GRHC wrote:
Sat Mar 09, 2024 2:37 pm
I read on a Railfan website that the WMI may no longer be transloading apples from refrigerated box cars for Gogo Squeez in Traverse City Michigan. Can anybody confirm this?
I know for a fact the WMI still receives refrigerated box cars but I’m not sure who they are for.

Re: West Michigan RR Abandonment Petition Coming

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 3:41 pm
by CAT345C
AARR wrote:
Sat Mar 09, 2024 3:05 pm
I think apples are seasonal. Gogo will use local sourcing whenever possible.

Does tomato paste arrive in refrigerated boxcars or in regular boxcars?

It came in regular 50' box cars.

Re: West Michigan RR Abandonment Petition Coming

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 12:29 am
by SD80MAC
WMI hasn’t handled tomato paste since 2015.

Re: West Michigan RR Abandonment Petition Coming

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 6:10 pm
by CAT345C
SD80MAC wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2024 12:29 am
WMI hasn’t handled tomato paste since 2015.
I had a can of ravioli on for lunch one day while hi-railing. Technically we handled tomato paste that day lol

Re: West Michigan RR Abandonment Petition Coming

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 12:46 am
by GRHC
AARR wrote:
Sat Mar 09, 2024 3:05 pm
I think apples are seasonal. Gogo will use local sourcing whenever possible.

Does tomato paste arrive in refrigerated boxcars or in regular boxcars?
GRHC wrote:
Sat Mar 09, 2024 2:37 pm
I read on a Railfan website that the WMI may no longer be transloading apples from refrigerated box cars for Gogo Squeez in Traverse City Michigan. Can anybody confirm this?
I know for a fact the WMI still receives refrigerated box cars but I’m not sure who they are for.
I read on a railfan website that the WMI did not transload apples for Gogo Squeez in Traverse City Michigan. They did however transload apples for local delivery. At this time I’m seeing refrigerated box cars being delivered to the WMI on a regular basis and I would assume these are still hauling apples.
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Re: West Michigan RR Abandonment Petition Coming

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:48 am
by SD80MAC
You would assume wrong.

Re: West Michigan RR Abandonment Petition Coming

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 8:36 am
by GRHC
SD80MAC wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:48 am
You would assume wrong.
Thank you best friend forever SD80MAC for clearing that up for me. I haven’t seen any hopper cars for shredded rubber tire loading in a very long time so I would have to guess that business has dried up moved back to the NS or moved to some other railroad providing transload services.
I believe that I read that outbound shipments of pork in refrigerated box cars had ceased and if so I wonder if this is still the case. Those refrigerated box cars could also be full of Eggo® Waffles because managing morning chaos is a breeze… if you have Eggo® Waffles. They're the perfect breakfast solution for little ones and grown-ups – quick, tasty, and convenient. With a variety of mouthwatering flavors to choose from, there's an Eggo® Waffle to satisfy every kid's cravings – even the pickiest eaters. L'Eggo With Eggo® and embrace those small victories, one delicious bite at a time.
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Re: West Michigan RR Abandonment Petition Coming

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 11:24 am
by pudgy
French fries are inbound these days in the reefer cars.

Re: West Michigan RR Abandonment Petition Coming

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 12:53 pm
by AARR
TY pudgy. It’s interesting all the diverse commodities that WMI handles.
pudgy wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 11:24 am
French fries are inbound these days in the reefer cars.

Re: West Michigan RR Abandonment Petition Coming

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 12:53 pm
by pudgy
Actually not French fries, waffle fries, but generic enough.

Re: West Michigan RR Abandonment Petition Coming

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:28 pm
by David Lang
With all this talk of Waffles and French Fries, you guys are making me hungry!

Can't eat all those carbs like I used to though.

Re: West Michigan RR Abandonment Petition Coming

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 5:17 pm
by GRHC
pudgy wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 12:53 pm
Actually not French fries, waffle fries, but generic enough.
No way not Eggo® Waffles but waffle fries sooo flipping kind of close. Both can be eaten for breakfast and are tasty and nutritious. Thank you pudgy for the info.
With the early spring and the lack of any ice on Lake Michigan along with the ground not being frozen I would think the spring construction season would be getting underway quite soon. That could possibly mean an uptick in aggregate shipments to the WMI in the near future.