CSX Train Location Updates - January 2021

[amessmann]

I’m in Howell grabbing gas at Latson Rd. Did they leave yet

Have not left Brighton yet, they attached to 388, pulled back into the main, grabbed their cars, and now appear to be stopping at WE Brighton to pick up the cars in the siding. Beginning to back into the siding now. If the head end passes Bauer Rd, I'll be heading to WE Howell (I'm blocked in atm), hopefully they'll meet 706 there.

[Tom49801]

E801-11 @ 10:01pm westward has his signal, siding to main, west end Grand Junction mp CG55.6 with BNSF engines #7202 + #5699 & 130 empty coal cars.

[LansingRailFan]

I’m in Howell grabbing gas at Latson Rd. Did they leave yet

Have not left Brighton yet, they attached to 388, pulled back into the main, grabbed their cars, and now appear to be stopping at WE Brighton to pick up the cars in the siding. Beginning to back into the siding now. If the head end passes Bauer Rd, I'll be heading to WE Howell (I'm blocked in atm), hopefully they'll meet 706 there.

I’m at Lucy Road. Red for EB here.

Yellow over red at Michigan Ave

Edit. Sounds like d906 went thru Williamston about 20 minutes ago.

[amessmann]

I’m at Lucy Road. Red for WB here.

WB or EB? Usually the EB signal protecting Ann Pere diamond is red until a train enters the block, then turns green. I.e only turns green when a train is five or so minutes away, from my observation. I should mention the EB signal at WE Brighton is Red.

"got just over 15 minutes" seems like they'll run out of time before they can leave... ...fine by me, more train to watch

[Tom49801]

Amtrak P370-13 @ 10:12pm eastward reported by the DD mp CG44.2 with 16 axles & 313 feet long. IDTX engine #4614 & 3 SuperLiner cars.
N801-13 @ 10:17pm eastward reported by the DD mp CG91.9 with 532 axles & 6,951 feet long. BNSF engine #6429 + #6412 & 130 loaded coal cars.

[LansingRailFan]

I’m at Lucy Road. Red for WB here.

WB or EB? Usually the EB signal protecting Ann Pere diamond is red until a train enters the block, then turns green. I.e only turns green when a train is five or so minutes away, from my observation. I should mention the EB signal at WE Brighton is Red.

"got just over 15 minutes" seems like they'll run out of time before they can leave... ...fine by me, more train to watch

I fixed typo above. Yah sounds like they dead. Oh well. Something for 707 to do.

[amessmann]

D706 now has an Approach signal at WE Brighton, will update when something changes - 22:25
Update: Aspect improved to Clear - 22:26
Clear EE Brighton, I can hear it in the distance - 22:41

[Tom49801]

E801-11 @ 10:19:37 pm westward Bangor's Center St crossing mp CG60.35 with BNSF engines #7202 + #5699 & 130 empty coal cars.

[amessmann]

D706 now has an Approach signal at WE Brighton, will update when something changes - 22:25
Update: Aspect improved to Clear - 22:26
Clear EE Brighton, I can hear it in the distance - 22:41

D706 thru EE Brighton at 22:53, 3211 leading and 738 in the middle.

[Tom49801]

E801-11 @ 11:26pm westward reported by the DD mp CG91.9 with 532 axles & 7,008 feet long. BNSF engines #7202 + #5699 & 130 empty coal cars.
N801-13 @ 11:38:36pm eastward Bangor's Division St crossing mp CG60.93 with BNSF engines #6429 + 1 & 130 loaded coal cars. He's going into Grand Junction siding mp CG55.6
D700-13 @ 11:53pm westward reported by the DD mp CG44.2 w/ 12 axles & 159 feet long. CSX engines #2652 + #2742 & 1 car. He will be waiting on the main for N801-13 to clear into Grand Junction siding.

[Tom49801]

D700-13 @ 12:42:44am westward Bangor mp CG60.7 with CSX engines #2652 + #2742 & 1 Box car.
D801-13 between 01:05am/01:35am eastward reported by the DD mp CG44.2 with 544 axles & 7,197 feet long. BNSF engines #6429 + 1 & 130 loaded coal cars & CSX pusher engines #579 + #989 (this was N801-13 from Grand Junction siding mp CG53.9)
D700-13 @ 03:08:42am eastward Bangor mp CG60.7 with CSX engines #2742 + #2652 & 3 empty gons.
D700-13 @ 03:32am eastward reported by the DD mp CG44.2 with 20 axles & 279 feet long.

[MQT1223]

P371 clear Grandville, passed Q327 on main 1 whos currently waiting for a Green once they get enough distance.

**Q327 clear Grandville @ 0625. CSXT 379 (YN2) followed by CSXT 5699 behind.

[donnieland]

371, 327 thursday
371
600a - depart grand rapids eb
603a - slow app pleasant st wb
608a - restricting plaster creek
613a - clear lamar
619a - clear grandville
625a/629a - clear ee/we hudsonville
636a - 19.1 - 16 axles, 305'
639a - clear 112th, waverly
644a/648a - arr/depart holland
657a - clear pair east saugatuck
710a - clear pair wells
715a - 44.2 - 17 axles, 304'
722a - clear pair grand junction

327
626a - slow app grandville - 1 tk to main
379 ld, std practice has been, what comes from barr, returns to barr 5366 trail ? - mqt has 5699 as trail unit with fred on end car
will be too dark to read engine number here, have to wait for 327 to pass bangor cam
640a - clear pair hudsonville
652a - 19.1 - 248 axles, 3391'
659a - slow app east wy - main to siding - 379 ld, 5366? or 5699? trail - 59 cars with fred on rear car
704a - restricting waverly - siding to old siding

[kd_1014]

Trail unit for 327 is 5366, not 5699

[SD80MAC]

If it were up to me, I would just run a dedicated Grand Rapids-Ann Pere turn 2 or 3 times a week, with nothing but GLC traffic on it. Bob’s thinking is correct that GLC traffic does come both from the west and the east, and GR does build a GLC block for D706 in addition to a Lansing block. I’m not sure if Rougemere also builds a GLC block, or if they just mix them in with all of the Lansing cars.

[C&O Dispatcher]

I’m at Lucy Road. Red for WB here.

WB or EB? Usually the EB signal protecting Ann Pere diamond is red until a train enters the block, then turns green. I.e only turns green when a train is five or so minutes away, from my observation. I should mention the EB signal at WE Brighton is Red.

"got just over 15 minutes" seems like they'll run out of time before they can leave... ...fine by me, more train to watch

Most likely signal system is set up like we had on the C&O Ludington Sub for the diamonds at Clare and Reed City. We could code in our signal east or west, but until our train was on the approach (a couple miles away) the signal did not actually line in the field. In the meantime, the "foreign line" could get a signal. North and South Kearsley were the same way. Although coded in for our movement, southbound signal did not come in until our train around Carpenter Road at McGrew, and northbound around Atwood. If a southbound had work at McGrew, we didn't code in Kearsley until we knew they were departing McGrew, thus not to tie up the CN (GTW).

[Tom49801]

Amtrak P371-14 @ 07:28:44am westward Bangor's Center St crossing mp CG60.35 with IDTX engine #4614 & 3 SuperLiner cars.

[donnieland]

hi c&o ds
on the east side ( wyoming to p co junction, approx 2 to 3 miles west of rougemere )
trowbridge and ann pere were both the same operation. if nothing was in the app's, gtw at trowbridge,
and ann arbor at ann pere. you would code the signal, the signal would show green for less then a min
and then go dark, when the train would enter the app circuit, the signal would recode green as long as
the other rr had not entered the app first. there wasn't a seperate signal lever to line either the gtw or aa,
their routes lined automaticly within the ctc system, but at the gtw diamond at south lyon the interlocking
had a controlled signal for the c&o and the gtw had a controlled signal. both controlled by the east end ds.
signal lever 101 l/r controlled movement on the c&o and 103 l/r controlled movement on the gtw

[Tom49801]

Q326-14 @ 9:22am eastward reported by DD mp CG91.9 with 244 axles & 3,564 feet long. CSX engine #7230 + #916(?) & 58 cars.

[C&O Dispatcher]

hi c&o ds
on the east side ( wyoming to p co junction, approx 2 to 3 miles west of rougemere )
trowbridge and ann pere were both the same operation. if nothing was in the app's, gtw at trowbridge,
and ann arbor at ann pere. you would code the signal, the signal would show green for less then a min
and then go dark, when the train would enter the app circuit, the signal would recode green as long as
the other rr had not entered the app first. there wasn't a seperate signal lever to line either the gtw or aa,
their routes lined automaticly within the ctc system, but at the gtw diamond at south lyon the interlocking
had a controlled signal for the c&o and the gtw had a controlled signal. both controlled by the east end ds.
signal lever 101 l/r controlled movement on the c&o and 103 l/r controlled movement on the gtw

Yes, exactly -- the same set-up on Saginaw side. At Hoyt and Wixom, we actually controlled the signals in all directions. After Romulus tower was closed, that was also an approach line-up for our trains. At Holly, we coded north or south, but rather than an "approach" operation, the GTW dispatcher had to line up as well, so they had ultimate control of the diamond. Thanks for your response!